Re: Is the "ACCESS EXCLUSIVE" lock for TRUNCATE really necessary? - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Is the "ACCESS EXCLUSIVE" lock for TRUNCATE really necessary?
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Msg-id 12719.1141702434@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: Is the "ACCESS EXCLUSIVE" lock for TRUNCATE really  ("Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org>)
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"Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@phlo.org> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> Until when?  How would you synchronize the switchover?

> Every snapshot would either contain the old, or the new version of
> the corresponding pg_class tuple. The ones using the old version
> couldn't possible be writer, only reader (TRUNCATE would still need
> to acquire a lock that ensures that). New transactions started after
> the commit of the truncate would see the new version, and use
> the new datafile.

Wrong.  *All* transactions read the system catalogs with SnapshotNow.

There's been some discussion of using MVCC semantics on catalog
accesses, but we are very far from being ready to do that; the
implications will reach into every part of the backend.  To give just
one example of why this isn't necessarily a hot idea, suppose that
transaction A adds a constraint to a table T and commits, and then
transaction B (which started before A and hasn't previously touched T)
comes along and inserts a tuple into T that violates the constraint.
If B uses an old snapshot for looking up T's catalog info then it will
not see the constraint that it must satisfy.  Locking does not help
since A released its locks on T before B would have tried to take any
lock.

            regards, tom lane

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