Re: Dynamic Shared Memory stuff - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Dynamic Shared Memory stuff
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Msg-id 12360.1386718018@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: Dynamic Shared Memory stuff  (Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>)
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Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 07:50:20PM +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>> Let's not add more cases like that, if we can avoid it.

> Only if we can avoid it for a modicum of effort and feature compromise.
> You're asking for PostgreSQL to reshape its use of persistent resources so you
> can throw around "killall -9 postgres; rm -rf $PGDATA" without so much as a
> memory leak.  That use case, not PostgreSQL, has the defect here.

The larger point is that such a shutdown process has never in the history
of Postgres been successful at removing shared-memory (or semaphore)
resources.  I do not feel a need to put a higher recoverability standard
onto the DSM code than what we've had for fifteen years with SysV shmem.

But, by the same token, it shouldn't be any *less* recoverable.  In this
context that means that starting a new postmaster should recover the
resources, at least 90% of the time (100% if we still have the old
postmaster lockfile).  I think the idea of keeping enough info in the
SysV segment to permit recovery of DSM resources is a good one.  Then,
any case where the existing logic is able to free the old SysV segment
is guaranteed to also work for DSM.
        regards, tom lane



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