Common Table Expressions (WITH RECURSIVE) patch - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jeff Davis
Subject Common Table Expressions (WITH RECURSIVE) patch
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Msg-id 1220886743.12678.133.camel@jdavis
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Responses Re: Common Table Expressions (WITH RECURSIVE) patch  (Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>)
Re: Common Table Expressions (WITH RECURSIVE) patch  (Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@sraoss.co.jp>)
Re: Common Table Expressions (WITH RECURSIVE) patch  (Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>)
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These are my initial comments about the Common Table Expressions (CTE)
patch, also known as WITH [RECURSIVE]. These comments are based on the
patch here:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2008-08/msg00021.php

This is a semantically complex feature, and the standard is fairly
complex as well. So I'm approaching this by making my own
interpretations from the standard first (I included my interpretations
and section references at the end of this email) and comparing to the
behavior of the patch.

The following examples may be inconsistent with the standard. Some
have already been mentioned, and I don't think they all need to be
fixed for 8.4, but I mention them here for completeness.

* Mutual Recursion:
 with recursive   foo(i) as (values(1) union all select i+1 from bar where i < 10),   bar(i) as (values(1) union all
selecti+1 from foo where i < 10) select * from foo; ERROR:  mutual recursive call is not supported
 
 The standard allows mutual recursion.

* Single Evaluation:
 with   foo(i) as (select random() as i) select * from foo union all select * from foo;          i -------------------
0.233165248762816  0.62126633618027 (2 rows)
 
 The standard specifies that non-recursive WITH should be evaluated once.

* RHS only:
 with recursive   foo(i) as (select i+1 from foo where i < 10 union all values(1)) select * from foo; ERROR:  Left hand
sideof UNION ALL must be a non-recursive term in a
 
recursive query
 The standard does not require that the recursive term be on the RHS.

* UNION ALL only:
 with recursive   foo(i) as (values(1) union select i+1 from foo where i < 10) select * from foo; ERROR:  non-recursive
termand recursive term must be combined with
 
UNION ALL
 The standard seems to allow UNION ALL, UNION, INTERSECT, and EXCEPT (when the recursive term is not on the RHS of the
EXCEPT).

* Binary recursion and subselect strangeness:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (values (1)   union all   select * from     (select i+1 from foo where i < 10     union all
   select i+1 from foo where i < X) t) select * from foo;
 
 Produces 10 rows of output regardless of what "X" is. This should be
fixed for 8.4. Also, this is non-linear recursion, which the standard seems to
disallow.

* Multiple recursive references:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (values (1)   union all   select i+1 from foo where i < 10   union all   select i+1 from
foowhere i < 20) select * from foo; ERROR:  Left hand side of UNION ALL must be a non-recursive term in a
 
recursive query
 If we're going to allow non-linear recursion (which the standard does not), this seems like it should be a valid
case.

* Strange result with except:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (values (1)   union all   select * from   (select i+1 from foo where i < 10   except
selecti+1 from foo where i < 5) t) select * from foo; ERROR:  table "foo" has 0 columns available but 1 columns
specified
 This query works if you replace "except" with "union". This should be
fixed for 8.4.

* Aggregates allowed:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (values(1)   union all   select max(i)+1 from foo where i < 10) select * from foo;
 Aggregates should be blocked according to the standard. Also, causes an infinite loop. This should be fixed for 8.4.

* DISTINCT should supress duplicates:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (select distinct * from (values(1),(2)) t   union all   select distinct i+1 from foo where
i< 10) select * from foo;
 
 This outputs a lot of duplicates, but they should be supressed
according to the standard. This query is essentially the same as
supporting UNION for recursive queries, so we should either fix both for
8.4 or block both for consistency.

* outer joins on a recursive reference should be blocked:
 with recursive foo(i) as   (values(1)   union all   select i+1 from foo left join (values(1)) t on (i=column1)) select
*from foo;
 
 Causes an infinite loop, but the standard says using an outer join in this situation should be prohibited. This should
befixed for 8.4.
 

* ORDER BY, LIMIT, and OFFSET are rejected for recursive queries. The
standard does not seem to say that these should be rejected.


The following are my interpretations of relevant parts of the SQL
standard (200n), and the associated sections. These are only my
interpretation, so let me know if you interpret the standard
differently.

Non-linear recursion forbidden: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.ii   My interpretation of 2.g.ii.2 is that WQN[k] and WQN[l]
maybe the   same <query name>. 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iv
 

EXCEPT can't be used for recursive queries if a recursive reference
appears on the RHS: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.1

INTERSECT ALL/EXCEPT ALL can't be used for recursive queries: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.5

recursive references must appear in FROM clause: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.3   My interpretation of this rule is that
itdoes not allow a   recursive reference in a subquery in the targetlist or a subquery   in the where clause.
 

stratum defined: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.f 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.i.1

recursive query must have anchor for every stratum: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.i.3

outer joins not allowed to join recursive references: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.6 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.7

Aggregates/HAVING disallowed: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.iii.4.B

Mutual recursion defined: 7.13: Syntax Rules: 2.g.i.1

Evaluate each WITH entry once, even if it's referenced multiple times: 7.13: General Rules: 1 7.13: General Rules: 2.b
Seealso:
 
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2008-07/msg01292.php

Evaluation order with mutual recursion: 7.13: General Rules: 2.a 7.13: General Rules: 2.b

Evaluation semantics: 7.13: General Rules: 2.c

DISTINCT: 7.13: General Rules: 2.c.iv 7.13: General Rules: 2.c.ix.3.A

I will provide comments about the code and documentation soon. This is a
very useful feature.

Regards,Jeff Davis



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