Re: Is my MySQL Gaining ? - Mailing list pgsql-general

> Have you undertaken the MySQL certifications? If not, how can you say
> that they are not worthwhile?
>

I think what a lot of people forget is that certifications are meant
to be a baseline. They are meant to allow an employer to say,
"Hey this person at least has some idea of what they are doing."

Also, specifically pertaining to many people on this list, certification
is pointless. For them. There is a point in your professional life
where a certification becomes "So What" and your resume should be
enough.

Frankly, if someone like Tom Lane came to me and said, "Hey I have 20
years experience with databases and I am a PostgreSQL core developer."
My response would not be, "Do you have any certs?" and I would
question the sanity, validity, and intelligence of any person who did.
He has the experience and resume to back up his worth.


> If you cannot see the advantages of formalised, structured, standardised
> training and certification, then I assume that you have no
> qualifications, and did not graduate from secondary school?

Well this was just plain snobbish. There are benefits to secondary
school but they do not pertain to each individual and it has been
proven time and time again that secondary school (college) can actually
hamper the minds, creativity and capabilities for a person to grown.
Bill Gates, and Michael Dell come to mind.

The above of course is not par for the course for everyone. Some people
need to be taught, some can teach themselves, some can only teach
themselves within one arena of talent, some are complete morons... it
depends on the individual.


> Such things
> are generally implemented at secondary school and further education, and
> Informix and Oracle and Microsoft have such things, from my
> understanding.

As someone who has passed the MS exams, you don't need them, they are
joke. The A+ was more difficult than the memorize the side bars and
select letter "C" testing that Microsoft offers.

I can not speak to Informix or Oracle however.


> Instead of going out of your way to ridicule MySQL, perhaps you should
> instead, try to do what I have done; have a look at what MySQL has,
> that PostgreSQL has not, and, consider how it could benefit PostgreSQL.
> Unless, of course, you want for PostgreSQL to not be taken seriously,
> and instead, to be similarly an object of ridicule, as its community
> would appear unable to achieve anything other than ridiculing others.
>

I agree with you 100% here. MySQL has a lot of stuff over PostgreSQL,
much of it is "perceived" benefit over actual benefit but perception
is what it is all about in todays world.


> Oh, and, on that basis, remember the Beta video format? It was supposed
> to be far better than VHS. But, it disappeared because VHS had greater
> marketing. And, OS/2 was supposed to be far superior to MS Windows,
> but, similarly, the same fate befell that, and, similarly, with IBM
> PC-DOS and MS-DOS.
>

Agreed.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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