Re: Is my MySQL Gaining ? - Mailing list pgsql-general

Keith,

In principal it can, however lets say that I am a complete newbie to
postgres and I want to use my favourite interface odbc, jdbc, .... etc.

So I download the source tarball and build it, then I goto find my
interface ... and it isn't there ( in all fairness jdbc is still there
but that won't be true shortly )

The same is true for most tools; psql being the exception

Now what do I do, I have to hunt around for the tools looking through a
myriad of projects on gborg, go to the lists etc.

Admittedly this deterrent won't stop a determined newbie from finding
what they are after, but I'm sure there are some folk who would just
assume that postgres is deficient in this area. Note some previous posts
from others which demonstrates my point.
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2003-12/msg01358.php

This gentleman finally found pgadmin III which solved his problem. But
I'm sure he had to look for it.


Dave
On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 13:00, Keith C. Perry wrote:
> I've asked this before and I'll apologize now if there was a response but how
> does http://gborg.postgresql.org NOT fill this.
>
> Quoting Chris Travers <chris@travelamericas.com>:
>
> > Hi all;
> >
> > The problem with trying to maintain an image of unity is that PostgreSQL is
> > moving in a direction of being sort of like a kernel.  In this sense, we
> > already are unified.  But regarding new types, client libs, etc. then unity
> > is neither necessary nor desirable IMO.
> >
> > If that is something that some people see here as important, maybe they can
> > start their own PostgreSQL "distributions."  Maybe we can link to them via
> > the PostgreSQL advocacy site :-)
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Chris Travers
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Cramer" <pg@fastcrypt.com>
> > To: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
> > Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>;
> > <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Is my MySQL Gaining ?
> >
> >
> > > Well, I'm not suggesting  that we force them to do anything, just give
> > > the appearance of unity, this should be possible with tools available,
> > > no?
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 16:57, Robert Treat wrote:
> > > > But your examples also lists things like interface libraries. For
> > > > postgresql to do that, we would have to pick specific interfaces
> > > > applications / libraries, then have them all centralize their
> > > > development/release process around the main distribution. If you can get
> > > > everyone to agree to this (and I recommend starting by picking the
> > > > official python interface), we can start down a unified path, but I
> > > > don't see it happening.
> > > >
> > > > Robert Treat
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 09:41, Dave Cramer wrote:
> > > > > Regardless of the reasons, perception is reality. If we appear to be
> > > > > disheveled then we are.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would think that it should be possible to give the appearance of
> > unity
> > > > > without actually requiring a full time web-master?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2003-12-26 at 12:43, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, Dave Cramer wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > One thing that they do have over postgres is a unified experience,
> > one
> > > > > > > doesn't have to go to n different sites to find things, such as
> > > > > > > interface libraries, advocacy sites, development sites, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Course they don't ... cause they have one, full time, paid webmaster
> > that
> > > > > > has nothing else on his plate ... one advantage to being able to
> > control
> > > > > > everything is the ability to keep everything centralized ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-12-26 at 11:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Dec 2003, B. van Ouwerkerk wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think I will switch to PG anywhere soon but sometimes it's
> > hard to
> > > > > > > > > find whatever information I need. Google is a great help but I
> > would
> > > > > > > > > expect it in the docs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Like ... ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services
> > (http://www.hub.org)
> > > > > > > > Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy
> > ICQ: 7615664
> > > > > > > >
> > >
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