Re: TPC-R benchmarks - Mailing list pgsql-performance

On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 07:35, Oleg Lebedev wrote:
> I left my TPC-R query #17 working over the weekend and it took 3988 mins
> ~ 10 hours to complete. And this is considering that I am using a TPC-R
> database created with a scale factor of 1, which corresponds to ~1 GB of
> data. I am running RedHat 8.0 on a dual 1 GHz processor, 512 MB RAM.

Was this run with or without the l_partkey index that Jenny suggested?

>
> Here is an excerpt from my postgresql.conf file (the rest of the
> settings are commented out):
>
> #
> #    Shared Memory Size
> #
> shared_buffers = 16384        # 2*max_connections, min 16, typically
> 8KB each
>
> #
> #    Non-shared Memory Sizes
> #
> sort_mem = 32768
>
> #
> #    Optimizer Parameters
> #
> effective_cache_size = 32000    # typically 8KB each
>
> Any suggestions on how to optimize these settings?
>
> I agree with Jenny that declaring additional indexes on the TPC-R tables
> may alter the validity of the benchmarks. Are there any official TPC
> benchmarks submitted by PostgreSQL?

Actually, for the TPC-R you _are allowed to declare additional indexes.
With TPC-H you are restricted to a specific set listed in the spec (an
index on l_partkey is allowed for both).

What you cannot do for either TPC-R or TPC-H is rewrite the SQL of the
query for the purposes of making the query run faster.

Sorry if I was unclear.

Valid TPC-R benchmark results are on the TPC web site:
http://www.tpc.org/tpcr/default.asp

I do not see one for PostgreSQL.


Regards,

Mary

--
Mary Edie Meredith <maryedie@osdl.org>
Open Source Development Lab

>
> Thanks.
>
> Oleg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Edie Meredith [mailto:maryedie@osdl.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:12 AM
> To: Tom Lane
> Cc: Oleg Lebedev; Jenny Zhang; pgsql-performance
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] TPC-R benchmarks
>
>
> The TPC-H/R rules allow only minor changes to the SQL that are necessary
> due to SQL implementation differences. They do not allow changes made to
> improve performance.  It is their way to test optimizer's ability to
> recognize an inefficient SQL statement and do the rewrite.
>
> The rule makes sense for the TPC-H, which is supposed to represent
> ad-Hoc query.  One might argue that for TPC-R, which is suppose to
> represent "Reporting" with pre-knowledge of the query, that re-write
> should be allowed. However, that is currently not the case. Since the
> RDBMS's represented on the TPC council are competing with TPC-H, their
> optimizers already do the re-write, so (IMHO) there is no motivation to
> relax the rules for the TPC-R.
>
>
> On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 21:28, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Oleg Lebedev <oleg.lebedev@waterford.org> writes:
> > > Seems like in your case postgres uses an i_l_partkey index on
> > > lineitem table. I have a foreign key constraint defined between the
> > > lineitem and part table, but didn't create an special indexes. Here
> > > is my query plan:
> >
> > The planner is obviously unhappy with this plan (note the large cost
> > numbers), but it can't find a way to do better.  An index on
> > lineitem.l_partkey would help, I think.
> >
> > The whole query seems like it's written in a very inefficient fashion;
>
> > couldn't the estimation of '0.2 * avg(l_quantity)' be amortized across
>
> > multiple join rows?  But I dunno whether the TPC rules allow for
> > significant manual rewriting of the given query.
> >
> >             regards, tom lane
> >
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