Re: estimating # of distinct values - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jim Nasby
Subject Re: estimating # of distinct values
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Msg-id 02541B84-7423-41F6-AE6F-95490843EFE0@nasby.net
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In response to Re: estimating # of distinct values  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net> wrote:
>>> On Jan 17, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Jim Nasby <jim@nasby.net> wrote:
>>>> - Forks are very possibly a more efficient way to deal with TOAST than having separate tables. There's a fair
amountof overhead we pay for the current setup. 
>>
>> That seems like an interesting idea, but I actually don't see why it
>> would be any more efficient, and it seems like you'd end up
>> reinventing things like vacuum and free space map management.
>>>
>>> The FSM would take some effort, but I don't think vacuum would be that hard to deal with; you'd just have to free
upthe space in any referenced toast forks at the same time that you vacuumed the heap. 
>
>> How's that different from what vacuum does on a TOAST table now?
>
> Even more to the point: Jim hasn't provided one single reason to suppose
> that this would be better-performing than the existing approach.  It
> looks to me like a large amount of work, and loss of on-disk
> compatibility, for nothing at all except the sake of change.

Yes, I was only pointing out that there were possible uses for allowing a variable number of forks per relation if
Tomasfelt the need to go that direction. Changing toast would certainly require some very convincing arguments as to
thebenefits. 
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Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect                   jim@nasby.net
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