Re: [NOVICE] PostgreSQL Training - Mailing list pgsql-general

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Stephan Szabo wrote:

> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 09:03:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Stephan Szabo <sszabo@megazone.bigpanda.com>
> To: Bret Busby <bret@busby.net>
> Cc: pgsql-novice@postgresql.org, pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [NOVICE] PostgreSQL Training
>
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Bryan Encina wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the result of the lack of formal, structured, PostgreSQL
> > training and certification, and the apparent resistance to these, in
> > the PostgreSQL community, is that, like the Perl people, the result is
>
> I don't think there's a resistance to them except that setting up training
> and certification costs money. Some of us don't do this as a job at all,
> some are in relatively small companies doing support/hosting and some are
> in unrelated fields and just use it. The first and third group aren't
> generally going to run training, it's outside what they do. The second
> group generally either doesn't have the money to do it, or at least needs
> it to be truly obviously profitable before they can really consider it.  A
> small company that puts down a few months to set up training and then
> doesn't get enough people to break even goes away, it's a pretty big risk.
>
>

The resistance to which I referred, is exemplified in the discussion
that I cited, from the google search.

cf the thread "PostgreSQL certification", started by the query posted
by Diogo Biazus, dated 24 October 2003, as found from the list archives.

I was slightly incorrect, however, in that that thread was on the
ADVOCACY list, not the GENERAL list as I had previously mentioned.
However, it would have been found, by using the google seartch that I
cited in my previous posting. Only four results to the google search,
were displayed; the PostgreSQL mailing list discussion that I cited,
being the first displayed result.

The basis for the resistance, was apparently not a cost or time based
opposition, but, opposition to certification itself; opposition to the
concepts of certification and standardisation of skills assessment.

Reading the messages of that thread, would lead to a better
understanding of the opposition to certification.

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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