Re: Comparing databases - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From Paul Ganainm
Subject Re: Comparing databases
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In response to Re: Comparing databases  ("Merlin Moncure" <merlin.moncure@rcsonline.com>)
Responses Re: Comparing databases  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
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merlin.moncure@rcsonline.com says...


> Firebird is a good product.  I can't speak for Mr. Treat, but I think
> you will find any misstated facts about said database to be purely
> unintentional.=20=20


Indeed, from the responses, people here seem to be very open and
interested in getting to the truth.


> The story of Interbase is a sad one.  Borland really dropped the ball,
> charging 3000$ for its development kit (enterprise Delphi/bcb) PLUS site
> licensing for the database.


You are suggesting royalty free distribution of the server if you have
purchased Delphi/BCB?


Might have been an idea. I have recently purchased "The Complete
Reference SQL" by Groff and Weinberg - it seems good. They have the
histories of several RDBMS products (incl. yours, and some I'd never
heard of) but not even a mention of Interbase or Firebird.


I really really think that Interbase/Firebird is good stuff, and I am
constantly surprised that it doesn't get much exposure.


>  Many developers got stung by the BDE and
> vowed never to return to Borland software


Indeed, the BDE seems with hindsight to have been a disaster. They
should have developed custom components per db server - at least the
biggies - maybe the problem was that they were trying to promote their
own db? Though, the Interbase specific components only came out in 3 or
4, and even then they were offered by a third party - there's a wierd
situation at the moment where the IBX (Interbase Express) components are
not developed by Borland themselves, but neither are they Open Source.


> (many of them are probably
> running linux today).  During the mid 90's it was surely the most
> advanced platform available for win32 application development.  By the
> time Borland switched gears, it was too late and MS sql server took over
> the small/medium business market.


MSDE - royalty free distribution with small(ish) databases - certainly I
think that helped. Plus, the admin tools were always a lot smoother.


> Here in the advocacy, the contributors here almost always try to present
> arguments in a factual, objective light.


I'm not disputing that for a second. It does seem to me though that a
lot of the stuff about Firebird that is being said is downright wrong,
or out of date, or a mix of the two.


>  Having programmed in C++
> Builder in the past, I know where you are coming from.


8-)


> Merlin

> p.s. one of my peeves wrt Firebird was the 64k row limit, is that still
> the case?


64k row limit - a row can't have more than 64k of data? I would be
surprised if this were the case for BLOB fields - maybe for the others -
I'll check it out and get back to you.


Paul...



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