Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time? (WIP CoC) - Mailing list pgsql-general
| From | James Keener |
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| Subject | Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time? (WIP CoC) |
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| Msg-id | CAG8g3tx0N3MKOt_unXyA2vEDYpUxKowTH5HQjEx5TPyNO9r=uA@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
| In response to | Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time? (WIP CoC) ("FarjadFarid\(ChkNet\)" <farjad.farid@checknetworks.com>) |
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Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time? (WIP CoC)
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| List | pgsql-general |
> 3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free of comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size or race.
why not
> 3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free of ad hominem. (Tip: Ask your self "Would I make this same comment if my best friend or parent stated what I was replying to" if you're unsure.)
The tip being optional, of course :-p I don't see why we need to limit comments like in the original: that's not the point! The point is that people shouldn't be attacked!
Moreover,
> 2. The CoC is not about being offended. The act of being offended is purely a recipient response and usually the offended individual is more interested in being a victim than moving forward.
is very harsh. It definitely needs to be rephrased or built on. What is the point of this, by the way? If we state that personal attacks are unbecoming of a member of this group, then does it matter if I'm offended when someone says we should have a table that lacks 1-M 1-F constraints for marriage? It's not an attack and trying to clarify the differences between being offended because of an attack on me or just in general might make things too awkward to write.
Jim
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:15 PM, FarjadFarid(ChkNet) <farjad.farid@checknetworks.com> wrote:
Thanks Joshua for creating this list. Great starting point and hopefully points to focus on to conclude this thread.
Here are my humble comments on them.
I think point two is already covered by respecting other people's opinion. At times specially over email ,where we don't see others reactions , people can unintentionally be more confrontational than normal. Therefore it is not just the recipient.
Perhaps Point 3 should read "free from".
Thanks again Joshua.
Best Regards
Farjad
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua D. Drake [mailto:jd@commandprompt.com]
Sent: 11 January 2016 22:00
To: FarjadFarid(ChkNet); 'Kevin Grittner'; 'Regina Obe'
Cc: 'Tom Lane'; 'Karsten Hilbert'; pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Code of Conduct: Is it time? (WIP CoC)
Hello,
Below please find a WIP CoC for the PostgreSQL.Org project:
PostgreSQL Global Development Group (PGDG) Code of Conduct (CoC):
1. The CoC is to provide community guidelines for creating and enforcing a safe, respectful, productive, and collaborative place for any person who is willing to contribute in a safe, respectful, productive and collaborative way.
2. The CoC is not about being offended. The act of being offended is purely a recipient response and usually the offended individual is more interested in being a victim than moving forward.
3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size or race.
4. Any sustained disruption of the collaborative space (mailing lists, IRC etc..) or other PostgreSQL events shall be construed as a violation of the CoC and appropriate action will be taken by the CoC committee.
5. The CoC is only about interaction with the PostgreSQL community. Your private and public lives outside of the PostgreSQL community are your own.
6. The CoC is not about Social Justice.
Sincerely,
JD
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Announcing "I'm offended" is basically telling the world you can't control your own emotions, so everyone else should do it for you.
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