Re: Tree view icon samples - Mailing list pgadmin-hackers

Hi Dave,

I have updated the icons "Conversions, Function and Function Trigger" as per you suggestions.

I feel the curved shapes won't look clear in 16px measurement which is happening with 'Conversions' icons'.

We might have to rework on 'Conversions', what do you say ?

Regards,

Chethana kumar

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Hi

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Chethana Kumar <chethana.kumar@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

Hi Dave,

I am attaching the updated icons along with new icons added.

Also I have tried to address the issues raised in our previous review -

1. Cast and Conversion: Eliminated the texty feel as you commented. 

Thought process: Basically cast means "Conversion between Data types" and Conversion means "Conversion between character" so I have come up with box shape concept where box means any "conversion of any data type or any character type". Ultimately "Box" plays role of a variable.

For Conversion, how about we make it a triangle and circle instead of two squares?

 

2. Primary and Foreign key: Updated as per the feedback and have come up with one more concept with slight changes in it.

Cool. I like the double-key for Foreign Key.

 

Supporting content for the concept:

As Primary key cannot be more than one but where as Foreign key can be more than one so taking this as base point I have presented the icon so.

3. Index, Function and Function Trigger : As of now I have kept it as existing one only, I cannot be more innovative here where it mis-matches with the user's mental model.  I am still brainstorming on these icons.

For index, how about a tree, like the bottom one at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/B_tree_insertion_example.png. Leave out the numbers of course.

For function, something with { } in there?

And for Trigger Function, a mashup of function and trigger?

 

Note: I have listed out the list of icons which will be used in pgAdmin 4 and will be working on those icons only

Regards,

Chethana kumar

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Hi

On Friday, June 30, 2017, Strauch, Sheldon <sstrauch@enova.com> wrote:

Dave et al,

Might I suggest flipping the foreign key icon left for right? That way, the key "points" to the left, back toward something pre-existing whilst the primary key "points" to the right, forward towards something new?

I like that idea.

 

Also, for me, the updated index icon loses its intuitiveness as it suggests an ordinal list or an enumeration. I think the clue in the old icon was the index tab at the top of the illustration.

Yeah. Maybe something that looks like a diagram of a btree?

 

Finally, the new trigger icon suggests, to me, that one is trying to do something with a document, maybe copying it. Whereas the old icon suggests an action to be taken.

I see what you mean. I don't think the old one is any better though. Chethana; do you have any alternative ideas?

 

Just my two cents...

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Hi

- The Primary Key and Foreign Key icons should have more differentiation than just colour. Maybe add a 1 to Primary Key?

- Did you get a list of the other icons that aren't on that sheet yet?

- I'm not sure I like the Casts and Conversions icons (mis-spelt as Converts by the previous owner). The text on the makes them seem textual than graphical.

Thanks!

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Chethana Kumar <chethana.kumar@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

Hi Team,  Attachment was missing.

On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Chethana Kumar <chethana.kumar@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

Hello Team,

Below are the updates for TreeView Icons -

1. Fine tuned the icons - Database, Language, Primary and Foreign key, Unique Constraint

2. Designed new concept for - Casts and Converts, Trigger

3. Attached the color blind test result for "Primary and Foreign key", now I feel it is pretty evident to differentiate for blind user  

4. Attached "thought_process.png" where I have explained the thought process for newly proposed icons (referred:www.postgresql.org)

5. Added little depth to all icons to provide the Afforance of Click

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh.vashi@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Chethana Kumar <chethana.kumar@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

Hi Ashesh,

I tried to eliminate the colour blind issue which might occur with the primary & foregin key icons.

But still I will use the app to test the colors, just let me know your opinion now.

Please do.

One more point: :-)

Icons for some nodes are missing here.

i.e. Partition table (introduced in 'Declarative Partition' patch), Materialized View, etc.

-- Thanks, Ashesh

Regards,

Chethana kumar

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh.vashi@enterprisedb.com> wrote:

On Jun 28, 2017 22:32, "Robert Eckhardt" <reckhardt@pivotal.io> wrote:

I like them as well. The only comment I have is that the red icon on disconnected DB and corrupted DB are difficult to make out. They are clearly differentiable but the icon itself is unclear. 

A colour blind person may not be able to differentiate the primary & foreign key icons.

-- Ashesh

-- Rob

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Hi

> On 28 Jun 2017, at 12:41, Chethana Kumar <chethana.kumar@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Team,
>
> I am coming up with some sample icons for Tree View Control.
>
> Thought process behind the concept -
>
> 1. Included EDB color brand feel (gray and blue colors)

You mean pgAdmin colour brand :-). EDB is orange & black.

> 2. Eliminated the distraction of too many colors and provided consistency through the icons
> 3. User will recognize the icon shapes rather than recalling it by their colors (like in existing icons) so focused more on shapes
> 4. It also adds value to the brand since it has EDB color tones in it
>
>
> So please feel free to share your views on the same

I like them - they look much more modern and stylish, but still fit with what they represent.

Other opinions please?

Good work!

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EnterpriseDB Corporation

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