Re: Survey on backing up unlogged tables: help us with PostgreSQL development! - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Scott Mead
Subject Re: Survey on backing up unlogged tables: help us with PostgreSQL development!
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In response to Re: Survey on backing up unlogged tables: help us with PostgreSQL development!  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Survey on backing up unlogged tables: help us with PostgreSQL development!  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Scott Mead <scott@scottrmead.com> writes:
> +1  -- Is there a technical reason to do a TRUNCATE on restart?  I'd feel
> better if I could just have unlogged tables that survive unless something
> like a power-outage etc...  I'm in the exact same boat here, lots of big
> logging tables that need to survive reboot, but are frustrating when it
> comes to WAL generation.

Keep in mind that these tables are *not* going to survive any type of
backend crash.  

  Not surviving a crash is fine.  IMHO, if we'd lose data in myisam files, I'm happy to lose them on pg nologging tables.  I just want it to survive a stop / start operation.  The benefits (think of multi-host syslog consolidation with FTS <drools> ) on these tables FAR outweigh the off-chance that a crash will cause me some heartache.
 
Maybe my perceptions are colored because I deal with
Postgres bugs all the time, but I think of backend crashes as pretty
common, certainly much more common than an OS-level crash.  I'm afraid
you may be expecting unlogged tables to be significantly more robust
than they really will be.


Bugs?  What bugs :)

  Honestly, I've only had a couple of *Prod* crashes (knocks on wood), but the need to restart occurs every now and then.

--Scott



   

                       regards, tom lane

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