On Fri, Mar 1, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Tomas Vondra wrote:
On 3/1/24 23:41, Nathan Bossart wrote:
>
> I think this is a generally reasonable proposal, except I don't know
> whether this breakage is acceptable. AFAICT there are two fundamental
> behavior changes folks would observe:
>
> * "-d <database_name>" would cease to emit the debugging output, and while
> enabling debug mode might've been unintentional in most cases, it might
> actually have been intentional in others.
>
I think this is the more severe of the two issues, because it's a silent
change. Everything will seem to work, but the user won't get the debug
info (if they actually wanted it).
Indeed. Hopefully the user will notice soon when inspecting the standard error
output.
> * "-d" with no argument or with a following option would begin failing, and
> users would need to replace "-d" with "--debug".
>
I think this is fine.
Yeah. It will force the user to fix it immediately.
> Neither of these seems particularly severe to me, especially for a
> benchmarking program, but I'd be curious to hear what others think.
>
I agree the -d option may be confusing, but is it worth it? I don't
know, it depends on how often people actually get confused by it, and I
don't recall hitting this (nor hearing about others). To be honest I
didn't even realize pgbench even has a debug switch ...
I'm the one that has a habit to use -d to specify the database name. I
generally include -d for pgbench and then realized that I don't need the debug
information because it is not for database specification.
But I'd like to mention this is far from our only tool using "-d" to
enable debug mode. A quick git-grep shows postgres, initdb,
pg_archivecleanup and pg_combinebackup do the same thing. So maybe it's
not that inconsistent overall.
As Greg said none of these programs connects to the database.
I don't like to break backward compatibility but in this case I suspect that it
is ok. I don't recall the last time I saw a script that makes use of -d option.
How often do you need a pgbench debug information?
