Re: Code of Conduct plan - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Joshua D. Drake
Subject Re: Code of Conduct plan
Date
Msg-id 748e540e-20df-13f9-d233-586106d8b9c0@commandprompt.com
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In response to Re: Code of Conduct plan  (Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt@pivotal.io>)
Responses Re: Code of Conduct plan  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Re: Code of Conduct plan  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Re: Code of Conduct plan  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>)
Re: Code of Conduct plan  (Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com>)
List pgsql-general
On 09/14/2018 06:59 AM, Robert Eckhardt wrote:
>
>>> I really have to object to this addition:
>>> "This Code is meant to cover all interaction between community members,
>>> whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org <http://postgresql.org>
>>> infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of Conduct that takes
>>> precedence (such as a conference's Code of Conduct)."
>>
>> I second that objection. It is not in PGDG's remit to cure the world, for
>> whatever form of cure you ascribe to. This is especially true as 'community
>> member' has no strict definition.
> I understand the concern, however, if you look at how attacks happen
> it is frequently through other sites. Specifically under/poorly
> moderated sites. For specific examples, people who have issues with
> people on Quora will frequently go after them on Facebook and Twitter.

Yes but are we to be the School Principal for the world?

> these aren't a solution looking for a problem. If we just want to look
> at the clusterfuck that is happening in the reddis community right now
> we can see conversations spilling onto twitter and into ad hominem
> vitriol.

Sure and that is unfortunate but isn't it up to the individual to deal 
with it through appropriate channels for whatever platform they are on? 
All of these platforms are:

1. Voluntary to use
2. Have their own Terms of Use and complaint departments
3. If it is abuse there are laws

I agree that within Postgresql.org we must have a professional code of 
conduct but the idea that an arbitrary committee appointed by an 
unelected board can decide the fate of a community member based on 
actions outside of the community is a bit authoritarian don't you think?

JD

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