Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Joshua D. Drake
Subject Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments
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Msg-id 51B03869.5080305@commandprompt.com
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In response to Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments  (Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>)
Responses Re: Redesigning checkpoint_segments
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On 6/5/2013 11:31 PM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
>> I have zero doubt that in your case it is true and desirable. I just don't
>> know that it is a positive solution to the problem as a whole. Your case is
>> rather limited to your environment, which is rather limited to the type of
>> user that your environment has. Which lends itself to the idea that this
>> should be a Heroku Postgres thing, not a .Org wide thing.
> If you look through the -general archives, or on stack overflow you'll
> find ample evidence that it is a problem that lots of people have.
>

Not to be unkind but the problems of the uniformed certainly are not the 
problems of the informed. Or perhaps they are certainly the problems of 
the informed :P. I do read -general and I don't see it much honestly. I 
don't watch stackoverflow that much but I am sure it probably does come 
up here, sometimes but I bet I can point once again to a lack of 
provisioning on their part.

This reminds me of the time that someone from Heroku said at PgEast, 
with a show of hands how many people here don't backup there database to 
S3. Almost everyone in the audience raised their hands.

Again, I don't question your need but just because it is hot and now 
doesn't mean it is healthy. I honestly do no see the requirement you are 
trying to represent as a need for the wider, production community.

(in short, not a single one of my customers would benefit from it, and 
90% of them are running databases Heroku can't.)

That is not a slight, honestly. I think your service is cool. I am just 
being honest.

Sincerely,

JD



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