Re: Proposal for 9.1: WAL streaming from WAL buffers - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Subject Re: Proposal for 9.1: WAL streaming from WAL buffers
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Msg-id 4C124A62.7020903@kaltenbrunner.cc
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In response to Re: Proposal for 9.1: WAL streaming from WAL buffers  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Proposal for 9.1: WAL streaming from WAL buffers  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On 06/11/2010 04:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Fujii Masao<masao.fujii@gmail.com>  writes:
>> In 9.0, walsender reads WAL always from the disk and sends it to the standby.
>> That is, we cannot send WAL until it has been written (and flushed) to the disk.
>
> I believe the above statement to be incorrect: walsender does *not* wait
> for an fsync to occur.
>
> I agree with the idea of trying to read from WAL buffers instead of the
> file system, but the main reason why is that the current behavior makes
> FADVISE_DONTNEED for WAL pretty dubious.  It'd be a good idea to still
> (artificially) limit replication to not read ahead of the written-out
> data.
>
>> ... Since we can write and send WAL simultaneously, in synchronous
>> replication, a transaction commit has only to wait for either of them. So the
>> performance would significantly increase.
>
> That performance claim, frankly, is ludicrous.  There is no way that
> round trip network delay plus write+fsync on the slave is faster than
> local write+fsync.  Furthermore, I would say that you are thinking
> exactly backwards about the requirements for synchronous replication:
> what that would mean is that transaction commit waits for *both*,
> not whichever one finishes first.

hmm not sure that is what fujii tried to say - I think his point was 
that in the original case we would have serialized all the operations 
(first write+sync on the master, network afterwards and write+sync on 
the slave) and now we could try parallelizing by sending the wal before 
we have synced locally.



Stefan


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