Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution in the Debian way - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution in the Debian way
Date
Msg-id 4880.1024982466@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution in the Debian way  (Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
Responses Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution  ("Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>)
Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution  (Tycho Fruru <tycho@fruru.com>)
Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution  (Dave Cramer <dave@fastcrypt.com>)
Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a  ("Josh Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com>)
Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution in  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
Re: Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution in  (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>)
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Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> Frankly, my feeling is, as a "geek-to-geek" product, PostgreSQL is already 
> adequately marketed through our huge network of DBA users and code 
> contributors.

Well, mumble ... it seems to me that we are definitely suffering from
a "buzz gap" (cf missile gap, Dr Strangelove, etc) compared to MySQL.
That doesn't bother me in itself, but the long-term implications are
scary.  If MySQL manages to attract a larger development community as
a consequence of more usage or better marketing, then eventually they
will be ahead of us on features and every other measure that counts.
Once we're number two with no prayer of catching up, how long will our
project remain viable?  So, no matter how silly you might think
"MySQL is better" is today, you've got to consider the prospect that
it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

So far I have not worried about that scenario too much, because Monty
has always treated the MySQL sources as his personal preserve; if he
hadn't written it or closely reviewed it, it didn't get in, and if it
didn't hew closely to his opinion of what's important, it didn't get in.
But I get the impression that he's loosened up of late.  If MySQL stops
being limited by what one guy can do or review, their rate of progress
could improve dramatically.

In short: we could use an organized marketing effort.  I really
feel the lack of Great Bridge these days; there isn't anyone with
comparable willingness to expend marketing talent and dollars on
promoting Postgres as such.  Not sure what to do about it.  We've
sort of dismissed Jean-Michel's comments (and those of others in
the past) with "sure, step right up and do the marketing" responses.
But the truth of the matter is that a few amateurs with no budget
won't make much of an impression.  We really need some professionals
with actual dollars to spend, and I don't know where to find 'em.
        regards, tom lane




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