Re: PG "Users" page? - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

On 13/09/16 23:51, Damien Clochard wrote:
> Le 12.09.2016 16:53, Jonathan S. Katz a écrit :
>>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On 11 Sep 2016, at 16:55, Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi us,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just noticed that our Featured Users page has “Sun
>>>> Microsystems” listed:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.postgresql.org/about/users/ [1]
>>>>> (Under “Technology” at the bottom)
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we update that to say “Oracle” :D … or maybe just
>>>> nuke that entry?
>>>>
>>>> That page is completely unmaintained. I proposed removing it a
>>>> couple of years back, but was met with strong objections coupled
>>>> with a complete lack of volunteers to actually do the work to keep
>>>> it up to date.
>>>>
>>>> I strongly feel it should be removed still - it is probably
>>>> responsible for 25% of emails to webmaster@ from random companies
>>>> requesting inclusion.
>>>
>>> Given that it really isn't being maintained, and that it actually
>>> takes a decent amount of time for somebody to maintain it in a way
>>> to make it actually *valuable* to visitors, I'll give a strong +1
>>> for removing it.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> If we want just a list of users, we could do that and make it
>>> self-service (meaning you just sign up and fill in your details -
>>> like we have for professional services). But that's something very
>>> different from being a featured user.
>>
>> +1 - but it goes back to Dave’s point of lack of criteria for how
>> users get listed, even if we make it self-signup.  We would probably
>> want to moderate it similar to the self-published content to avoid
>> spam, etc.
>>
>>
>
> I think that such a list served its purpose 10 years ago when people
> were asking "Who's using PostgreSQL ?" . But we're way beyond that now.
> My experience is that PostgreSQL is used almost everywhere (at least in
> France) and the question is more "What can I do with PostgreSQL ?"
>
> A list of company names (no matter how big they are) doesn't say much
> about how PostgreSQL is used inside these companies. Access is used in
> many companies too...
>
> So instead of long list of names or logos, I think I'd be more powerful
> to have 3 or 4 curated usecases for the most frequently asked situations :
>
> * A Multi-Terabytes database
> * An Oracle to Postgres migration success story
> * A mission-critical application
> * A nosql example
>
> Each usecase doesn't have to be very long. 1500 characters would be
> enough I think. And the 4 usecases could be found easily... The hard
> part is to update the page on a regular basis because a usecase can get
> old very quickly.
>

+1 to this, the success stories have much bigger impact (especially if
backed by well known company), lists mean nothing as everything is used
by everybody nowadays.

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