Re: Uber moving towards MySQL

From: Damien Clochard
Subject: Re: Uber moving towards MySQL
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In response to: Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Michael Banck)
Responses: Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Bruce Momjian)
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 Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Robert Bernier, )
  Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (James Keener, )
  Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Bruce Momjian, )
   Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Gavin Flower, )
   Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  ("Jonathan S. Katz", )
  Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Michael Banck, )
   Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Damien Clochard, )
    Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Bruce Momjian, )
     Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  ("Jonathan S. Katz", )
      Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Simon Riggs, )
       Re: Uber moving towards MySQL  (Bruce Momjian, )

Le 30.07.2016 19:01, Michael Banck a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 28.07.2016, 06:24 -0700 schrieb Robert Bernier:
>> Folks,
>>
>> https://ayende.com/blog/175137/re-why-uber-engineering-switched-from-postgres-to-mysql
>>
>> This is getting serious; two popularized articles on hacker news now
>> slamming postgres.
>>
>> I've read and caught up on our mailthread regarding the technical
>> issues.
>>
>> Although no way near as knowledgeable as many of you regarding the
>> inner workings of MySQL, let alone postgres, I do however recognize
>> navel gazing when I see it. The first article starting this thread was
>> a convoluted justification of one's own religion. This second article
>> is pure commercial leveraging of a thread that's garnered a lot of
>> attention.
>>
>> It's time a response from the postgres community was forthcoming.
>
> Markus Winand wrote a pretty good (and leveled, in my opinion) analysis
> of Uber's choices and their trade-offs here:
>
> http://use-the-index-luke.com/blog/2016-07-29/on-ubers-choice-of-databases
>
> That hasn't been picked up by Hacker News yet though.
>

Markus' article didn't make it to the HN front page heaven :
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12187797

However there's another post linking directly to pgsql-hackers:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12201353

So now let's all talk here about some Hacker News comments relative to a
PostgreSQL mailing-list and get stuck in an infinite loop :)

Joke aside, the HN comments really show that the key point is not about
the arguments we can object to Uber's article, but **how** we respond to
it.

some comments among others :

« they're admitting there's a problem (which exists for this very
specific user case) and not just deflecting the criticism. I'm
impressed, I'd say a lot of projects couldn't have handled this so
nicely »

« I have a lot more respect for this than say MongoDb which claims to be
great at everything. »

« The attitude with which the article is discussed in the mailing list
is admirable. »

« Couldn't help contrasting it to some popular programming language
mailing lists, especially a CSP inspired language by a major search
company. »



To me, this whole story is a nice example of how we can transform a
supposedly bad public announcement into a positive communication.


The medium is the message ! :)


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Damien Clochard



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