Re: IMPORTANT: A temporary list for Strategic - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
>> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 1. Yet none of you are marketers. You are developers.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why do you say that?  I think everyone on this list is interested in
>> marketing (or they would not be here), and all the people involved in
>> this thread have already done a fair share of work for that.
>>
>>
>>
> I think you are missing my point. You by trade (I believe) are a
> developer. I by trade am
> a Consultant. Ron (I think that was his name) by trade is a marketing
> guy. That does not
> mean that each person can not deliver valid information to the project
> but it does mean
> we all think and process a little different.
>
> Personally, I like to hack, but I do not like to progam. Thus I hire
> programmers to service
> my customers long term programming needs. I like to sell, but can't
> stand the sales process. Thus I have
> a salesman to handle that.
>
Yes marketing men are a bit different. They don't think like a developer
or a consultant.

Just a question :
If you do this temporary list, who decide of the contains of the work ?
Only the subscribers of this temporary list.
And none of the advocacy list (ie developer, consultant, syst eng, ...)
who do postgres ?
In this case developers cannot decide want they put in postgres only
marketing decides this.

I think everyone in advocacy list must see what the marketing think even
if it is not very easy to take only threads you want.

> Each person has a particular talent that they are strong in. I have
> yet to meet a person who's
> strong suit is marketing/sales that could handle the amount of
> divergance that happens on a
> mailing list, including my own salesman.
>
> That is why I think that a directed list, temporarily will provide a
> boon to productivity to the
> overall project.
>
>
>>> prowess... this is what we are
>>> talking about. MySQL marketing doesn't happen on the frito-lay crumbs
>>> of a developers desk. It happens
>>> in rooms with whiteboards, ties, coffee, cell phone and doughnuts.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The MySQL development process is also different from ours, so why
>> can't the marketing process be different as well?
>>
>>
>>
> It is already different in that we are marketing a project not a
> product. Yes a product comes from
> the resulting project but there is no money incentive. At least not
> directly. All I am saying is that
> marketing people are better at marketing and those people have a
> certain way they do things and
> that developers are better at developing and they have their way of
> doing things. In short we should
> be respectful and open to each way.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
>
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