Re: State of Beta 2 - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Joshua D. Drake
Subject Re: State of Beta 2
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Msg-id 3F624D50.8030305@commandprompt.com
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In response to Re: State of Beta 2  (Dennis Gearon <gearond@fireserve.net>)
Responses need for in-place upgrades (was Re: State of Beta 2)
Re: State of Beta 2
Re: State of Beta 2
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Hello,

  The initdb is not always a bad thing. In reality the idea of just
being able to "upgrade" is not a good thing. Just think about the
differences between 7.2.3 and 7.3.x... The most annoying (although
appropriate) one being that integers can no longer be ''.

  If we provide the ability to do a wholesale upgrade many things would
just break. Heck even the connection protocol is different for 7.4.


J

Dennis Gearon wrote:

> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 10:50, Andrew Rawnsley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Small soapbox moment here...
>>>
>>> ANYTHING that can be done to eliminate having to do an initdb on
>>> version changes would make a lot of people do cartwheels. 'Do a
>>> dump/reload' sometimes comes across a bit casually on the lists (my
>>> apologies if it isn't meant to be), but it can be be incredibly
>>> onerous to do on a large production system. That's probably why you
>>> run across people running stupid-old versions.
>>>
>>
>>
>> And this will become even more of an issue as it's PG's popularity
>> grows with large and 24x7 databases.
>>
>>
> He is right, it might be a good idea to head this problem 'off at the
> pass'. I am usually pretty good at predicting technilogical trends.
> I've made some money at it. And I predict that Postgres will eclipse
> MySQL and be in the top 5 of all databases deployed. But it does have
> some achilles tendon's.
>
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