Re: bdr replication - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Alvaro Aguayo Garcia-Rada
Subject Re: bdr replication
Date
Msg-id 31193683.369.1459402851869.JavaMail.Administrator@natalia-srv
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In response to Re: bdr replication  (Slava Bendersky <volga629@skillsearch.ca>)
Responses Re: bdr replication
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We are overlaping mails :P

What I don't understand is the need of a shared storage in this case. It would be a lot better to have the data folder
insideeach server virtual disk to avoid troubles with the shared storage; I really see no reason for such configuration
here.

Now, getting into the solution rather than in the problem. I suggest you to do the following:

1. First of all, backup your data folder for both nodes. Just in case. Make backup with postgres stopped to avoid
problems.
2. Choose one node which will be considered up-to-date(Let's say "Node A")
3. Dump your database(s) on that node, excluding the bdr schema on each db. Dump also your globals
4. Wipe or rename your data folder on each node, and then initialize each node. Do not configure BDR yet.
5. Restore your data(backed up at step 3) on Node A
6. Configure BDR on Node A
7. Add Node B to the replication group, using "bdr_init_copy" to make it replicate from Node A.

That should do the trick. There is another possibility: Drop the replication configuration no Node A, and then start
fromscratch(Steps 1, 6 & 7). However, this can be troublesome, as it involves editing bdr & postgres schemas, and that
canlead you to problems on the future, so I'd recommend you the "long" way. 

Feel free to ask any question regarding this issue. Looks serious....

Alvaro Aguayo
Jefe de Operaciones
Open Comb Systems E.I.R.L.

Oficina: (+51-1) 3377813 | RPM: #034252 / (+51) 995540103  | RPC: (+51) 954183248
Website: www.ocs.pe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Slava Bendersky" <volga629@skillsearch.ca>
To: "Alvaro Aguayo Garcia-Rada" <aaguayo@opensysperu.com>
Cc: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>, "John R Pierce" <pierce@hogranch.com>
Sent: Thursday, 31 March, 2016 12:28:09 AM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] bdr replication



Hello Alvaro,
We running BDR where each PostgreSQL vm is a master and shared storage only on hypervisor level. All vm leave with own
virtualdisk. Right now we have 2 server for redundancy which have shared network between them. Issue that BDR is
workingright now see log below. And my question how to restore BDR replication correctly.  


volga629

----- Original Message -----

From: "Alvaro Aguayo Garcia-Rada" <aaguayo@opensysperu.com>
To: "volga629" <volga629@skillsearch.ca>
Cc: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>, "John R Pierce" <pierce@hogranch.com>
Sent: Thursday, 31 March, 2016 02:19:42
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] bdr replication


What's the purpose of such configuration? Doesn't makes sense for me. The only reasonable case where you would want to
putthe data folder on a shared storage is for usage with warm standby, where you can have a secondary server which
servesas a read-only replica, and can be rpomoted to master on master failure.  

If you intend high availability, you'd rather try it at VM level, like vmware HA or Proxmox HA. That will make your VM
runon any hypervisor in the group disregarding the failure of some node.  

Regards,

Alvaro Aguayo
Jefe de Operaciones
Open Comb Systems E.I.R.L.

Oficina: (+51-1) 3377813 | RPM: #034252 / (+51) 995540103 | RPC: (+51) 954183248
Website: www.ocs.pe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Slava Bendersky" <volga629@skillsearch.ca>
To: "John R Pierce" <pierce@hogranch.com>
Cc: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 30 March, 2016 10:57:13 PM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] bdr replication



In my case only virtual hosts are use share storage (feed from glusterfs), but actual virtual machines have own
separatedisks and all PostgreSQL run on separate data directories.  


volga629

----- Original Message -----

From: "John R Pierce" <pierce@hogranch.com>
To: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Sent: Thursday, 31 March, 2016 00:34:55
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] bdr replication


On 3/30/2016 8:09 PM, Slava Bendersky wrote:
> Is any share storage technology recommended for PostgreSQL in virtual
> environment ?
> Ok what I will do is going take backups, shutdown both virtual servers
> and place all vm use local disk on server only.


'share storage technology'... um. thats such a vague term, it can
mean lots of things.

each postgres instance needs its own data store, two instances can NOT
share the same files under any condition. these data stores can be
on SAN or NAS, as long the storage is reliable about committed random
writes, and as long as two different servers aren't using the SAME
directory for their data stores.

--
john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz



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