Re: updates for spi / donations info - Mailing list pgsql-www

From Jonathan S. Katz
Subject Re: updates for spi / donations info
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Msg-id 2ffd86e3-0904-7ab8-5abf-b0fe9ca54a82@postgresql.org
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In response to Re: updates for spi / donations info  (Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>)
Responses Re: updates for spi / donations info
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On 2/26/23 10:51 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:25 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org 
> <mailto:jkatz@postgresql.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2/26/23 1:04 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
> 
>      > Yeah, I think I may have overcorrected on this, and could get
>     on-board
>      > with the idea of modifying the button to go directly to the Postgres
>      > page @ SPI as a good mix of lowering the maintenance but also
>     making it
>      > simple for folks to donate. Do you want to have a go at making that
>      > change, or do you need me to take another stab at a patch?
> 
>     I went ahead and made another pass.
> 
>     I stared at the PG SPI page a bit more and noticed (1) it only covered
>     the Paypal method and (2) the Paypal button that page has identical
>     code
>     to ours. So I kept things on our page as is, with a few wording tweaks.
>     It's better if we minimize the number of clicks that someone needs to
>     make to donate.
> 
>     What do you think of this changeset?
> 
> 
> Well, my primary goal here was to eliminate the need for updating the 
> .org site in the face of SPI related changes, so I feel like we don't 
> really accomplish that if we leave the donation link as is. 
> Additionally, I'd like to reduce the surface area of Paypal on the whole 
> process, which makes this feel like a second strike.
> 
> FWIW part of my plan with all this is to also submit a patch to the SPI 
> website which updates the logo / wording and adds a direct link to the 
> click and pledge credit card option (ideally above the paypal option), 
> so there would still be an extra click but I think it's not too much 
> extra overhead. If you really want to have a direct link to donate from 
> the .org page, I guess leave the paypal one for now, and I'll hopefully 
> come back with a patch to change it to click and pledge once I get the info.

I went through the "Click & Pledge" process and it's unclear to me how 
you designate it for PostgreSQL. After staring at it for a bit, I 
realized that if I continue to scroll down, hover over each "More Info" 
box, I can eventually find the one that's specific to PostgreSQL. I 
don't think most folks are going to go through that process to figure 
out how to donate, and we would end up missing out on donations.

While the current set up may be imperfect, it still works and limits the 
friction of making a payment via credit card (which I presume is our 
biggest contributor of donations? I can't tell from the SPI reports). If 
something changes in the SPI set up, we could certainly change our page 
to accommodate, but I think right now removing that button greatly 
increases the risk of our ability to collect donations.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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