Re: Temporary file access API - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Antonin Houska
Subject Re: Temporary file access API
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Msg-id 24759.1650466826@antos
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In response to Re: Temporary file access API  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 5:30 AM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote:
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 4:05 AM Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at> wrote:
> > > > There are't really that many kinds of files to encrypt:
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Transparent_Data_Encryption#List_of_the_files_that_contain_user_data
> > > >
> > > > (And pg_stat/* files should be removed from the list.)
> > >
> > > This kind of gets into some theoretical questions. Like, do we think
> > > that it's an information leak if people can look at how many
> > > transactions are committing and aborting in pg_xact_status? In theory
> > > it could be, but I know it's been argued that that's too much of a
> > > side channel. I'm not sure I believe that, but it's arguable.
> >
> > I was referring to the fact that the statistics are no longer stored in files:
> >
> > https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commit;h=5891c7a8ed8f2d3d577e7eea34dacff12d7b6bbd
> 
> Oh, yeah, I agree with that.

I see now that the statistics are yet saved to a file on server shutdown. I've
updated the wiki page.

Attached is a new version of the patch, to evaluate what the API use in the
backend could look like. I haven't touched places where the file is accessed
in a non-trivial way, e.g. lseek() / fseek() or pg_pwrite() / pg_pread() is
called.

Another use case might be copying one file to another via a buffer. Something
like

    BufFileCopy(int dstfd, int srcfd, int bufsize)

The obvious call site would be in copydir.c:copy_file(), but I think there are
a few more in the server code.

-- 
Antonin Houska
Web: https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com


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