Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD

From: Tom Lane
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD
Date: ,
Msg-id: 23021.1157052839@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Josh Berkus)
Responses: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on  (Bruce Momjian)
Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Chris Travers)
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 Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Josh Berkus, )
  Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Josh Berkus, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Tom Lane, )
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     Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Chris Travers, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Anton de Wet, )
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      Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Training (from Thought provoking...)  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
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     Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Bricklen Anderson, )
      Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
       Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (mdean, )
        Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Anton de Wet, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Robert Treat, )
    Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Bruno Wolff III, )
     Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Scott Marlowe, )
      Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Ron Johnson, )
       Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Tom Lane, )
        Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Ron Johnson, )
         Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Tom Lane, )
          Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Ron Johnson, )
      Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Shane Ambler, )
       Re: Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Tim Tassonis, )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Bruce Momjian, )
    Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
     Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Bill Moran, )
   Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Thought provoking piece on NetBSD  (Martijn van Oosterhout, )

Josh Berkus <> writes:
> In general, I think that people who harp on PostgreSQL's lack of a
> benevolent dictator as an inhibitor to progress are people who are not
> comfortable with democracy and are looking for excuses why company X needs
> to "take over the project for its own good."

I don't recall having seen that idea being pushed for Postgres ... not
seriously anyway.  However, it's certainly true that historically we've
had effectively *no* project leadership, in the sense of anyone setting
feature goals for releases or creating a long-term roadmap.  Would we
be better off if we had done that?  I'm not sure.

It's pointless to suppose that individual developers would really be
answerable to any project-wide management, since that's not who they're
paid by.  So I tend to think that a project roadmap would be more of an
exercise in wishful thinking than a useful management tool.  OTOH it
*could* be useful, if there are any developers out there wondering what
they should work on next.  Are there any ... and would they listen to a
roadmap if they had one, rather than scratching their own itches?

            regards, tom lane


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