Re: Popcount optimization using AVX512 - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: Popcount optimization using AVX512
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Msg-id 20240731024308.xma56fxidkdydzlo@awork3.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: Popcount optimization using AVX512  (Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Popcount optimization using AVX512
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Hi,

On 2024-07-30 21:01:31 -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 06:46:51PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> > On 2024-07-30 20:20:34 -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 05:49:59PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> >> > Why are we actually checking for xsave? We're not using xsave itself and I
> >> > couldn't find a comment in 792752af4eb5 explaining what we're using it as a
> >> > proxy for?  Is that just to know if _xgetbv() exists?  Is it actually possible
> >> > that xsave isn't available when avx512 is?
> >> 
> >> Yes, it's to verify we have XGETBV, which IIUC requires support from both
> >> the processor and the OS (see 598e011 and upthread discussion).  AFAIK the
> >> way we are detecting AVX-512 support is quite literally by-the-book unless
> >> I've gotten something wrong.
> > 
> > I'm basically wondering whether we need to check for compiler (not OS support)
> > support for xsave if we also check for -mavx512vpopcntdq -mavx512bw
> > support. Afaict the latter implies support for xsave.
> 
> The main purpose of the XSAVE compiler check is to determine whether we
> need to add -mxsave in order to use _xgetbv() [0].  If that wasn't a
> factor, we could probably skip it.  Earlier versions of the patch used
> inline assembly in the non-MSVC path to call XGETBV, which I was trying to
> avoid.

My point is that _xgetbv() is made available by -mavx512vpopcntdq -mavx512bw
alone, without needing -mxsave:

echo -e '#include <immintrin.h>\nint main() { return _xgetbv(0) & 0xe0; }'|time gcc -march=x86-64 -c -xc  - -o
/dev/null
-> fails

echo -e '#include <immintrin.h>\nint main() { return _xgetbv(0) & 0xe0;}'|time gcc -march=x86-64 -mavx512vpopcntdq
-mavx512bw-c -xc - -o /dev/null
 
-> succeeds

Greetings,

Andres Freund



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