On 2020-Jan-20, Tomas Vondra wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 01:04:33AM +0000, tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com wrote:
> > From: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
> > > One of the stats I occasionally wanted to know are stats for the SLRU
> > > stats (we have couple of those - clog, subtrans, ...). So here is a WIP
> > > version of a patch adding that.
> >
> > How can users take advantage of this information? I think we also need
> > the ability to set the size of SLRU buffers. (I want to be freed from
> > the concern about the buffer shortage by setting the buffer size to its
> > maximum. For example, CLOG would be only 1 GB.)
>
> You're right the users can't really take advantage of this - my primary
> motivation was providing a feedback for devs, benchmarking etc. That
> might have been done with DEBUG messages or something, but this seems
> more convenient.
I think the stats are definitely needed if we keep the current code.
I've researched some specific problems in this code, such as the need
for more subtrans SLRU buffers; IIRC it was pretty painful to figure out
what the problem was without counters, and it'd have been trivial with
them.
> I think it's unclear how desirable / necessary it is to allow users to
> tweak those caches. I don't think we should have a GUC for everything,
> but maybe there's some sort of heuristics to determine the size. The
> assumption is we actually find practical workloads where the size of
> these SLRUs is a performance issue.
I expect we'll eventually realize the need for changes in this area.
Either configurability in the buffer pool sizes, or moving them to be
part of shared_buffers (IIRC Thomas Munro had a patch for this.)
Example: SLRUs like pg_commit and pg_subtrans have higher buffer
consumption as the range of open transactions increases; for many users
this is not a concern and they can live with the default values.
(I think when pg_commit (née pg_clog) buffers were increased, we should
have increased pg_subtrans buffers to match.)
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