Re: New LLVM JIT Features - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: New LLVM JIT Features
Date
Msg-id 20190402215021.q7e7xjmobakkgan5@alap3.anarazel.de
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In response to New LLVM JIT Features  (preejackie <praveenvelliengiri@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: New LLVM JIT Features  (preejackie <praveenvelliengiri@gmail.com>)
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Hi,

On 2019-04-02 00:51:51 +0530, preejackie wrote:
> As LLVM ORC supports compiling in multiple backend threads, it would be
> effective if we compile the functions speculatively before they are called
> by the executing function. So when we request JIT to compile a function, JIT
> will immediately returns the function address for raw executable bits. This
> will greatly reduce the JIT latencies in modern multi-core machines.

I personally think this should be approached somewhat differently -
putting patchpoints into code reduces the efficiency of the generated
code, so I don't think that's the right approach. What I think we should
do is to, if we decide it's worthwhile at plan time, generate the LLVM
IR time at the beginning of execution, but continue to use interpreted
execution initially. The generated IR would then be handed over to a
background [process|thread|whatnot] for optimization of code
generation. Then, when finished, I'd switch over from interpreted to JIT
compiled execution.  That approach will, in my view, yield better
latency behaviour because we can actually evaluate quals etc for which
we've not yet finished code generation.


> And also I'm working on designing a ORC in-place dynamic profiling support, by
> this JIT will automatically able to identify the hot functions, and compile
> it in higher optimization level to achieve good performance.

I think that's a nice concept, but at the moment the generated code is
so bad that it's much more likely to get big benefits by improving the
generated IR, compared to giving more hints to the optimizer.

Greetings,

Andres Freund



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