Re: Why doesn't my mail appear on the pgsql-announce list? - Mailing list pgsql-www

From Stephen Frost
Subject Re: Why doesn't my mail appear on the pgsql-announce list?
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Msg-id 20160425034839.GV10850@tamriel.snowman.net
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In response to Re: Why doesn't my mail appear on the pgsql-announce list?  ("Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com>)
Responses Re: Why doesn't my mail appear on the pgsql-announce list?  (Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>)
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Takayuki,

* Tsunakawa, Takayuki (tsunakawa.takay@jp.fujitsu.com) wrote:
> > The moderators have not approved it because it does not fall under any of
> > the defined categories for acceptable mail to -announce.  The -announce
> > policy is here:
> >
> > https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NewsEventsApproval
>
> I didn't notice this page.  Thanks.
> (But my mail seems to fall under " Major new advocacy effort"...)

That's under "PostgreSQL Core News".  My understanding of that section
is that it's for generally agreed to news from the core PostgreSQL
community (which seems appropriate, given the rest of the items listed).

In other words, were this discussed ahead of time on -advocacy, a
consensus among the individuals on -advocacy reached, the survey put
up postgresql.org, and just generally done through the community, then
it would fall under that category.

A posting of a survey from an independent organization doesn't fall
under the "PostgreSQL Core News" category, as I read the policy.

Consider what could happen if we were to allow this survey- we would be
saying that we will allow surveys from more-or-less any organization to
be posted to -announce.  I don't think that's a very good policy to
have.

> > If you wish to have an exception made to that policy, then I believe it
> > needs to come from -core.
>
> I'm OK as I could post to pgsql-advocacy successfully.

There is not a specific policy for -advocacy, as far as I'm aware.  I
would point out that we do try to keep all of the lists on-topic, as a
general rule.  Your posting of this survey to -advocacy for discussion
seems entirely appropriate to me.

> > Note that postgresql.org already has the ability to host surveys and for
> > users to respond to those surveys.
>
> Yes, actually, I wanted to post the survey on postgresql.org, but I didn't know how.  In addition, it seemed that
postgresql.orgsurvey can contain only a single question.  My survey requires three questions.  What's more, the survey
formneeds to allow respondents to add new choices to the multiple-choice question, and the second question needs to
changebased on the first one.  Those requirements made me choose Google Form and write some Google App Script. 

I would suggest that you bring that up on -www as a feature request
then, there may be others who are interested.  Of course, I'm sure that
a patch to add such capability would go that much farther.  The source
code for the website is available here:

http://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=pgweb.git;a=summary

Note that the website is currently undergoing a redesign of the
front-end, so those pieces are likely to change in the near future.
The backend code is also being upgraded to Django 1.8.  I don't know if
that would present a problem or not for adding the capabilities you're
asking for.  Asking on -www is probably the right approach before you
start implementing any changes to that code.

Thanks!

Stephen

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