Re: psql \d+ and oid display - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: psql \d+ and oid display
Date
Msg-id 20140329221000.GC30470@momjian.us
Whole thread Raw
In response to Re: psql \d+ and oid display  (Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>)
Responses Re: psql \d+ and oid display  (Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>)
Re: psql \d+ and oid display  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
List pgsql-hackers
On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 05:10:49PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> 
> On 03/29/2014 04:49 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 09:59:36AM -0700, David Johnston wrote:
> >>As my belief is that 99% of the uses of \d are for human consumption
> >>(because machines should in most cases hit the catalogs directly) then
> >>strictly displaying "Includes OIDs" when appropriate has my +1.
> >>
> >>Uses of \d+ in regression suites will be obvious and quickly fixed and
> >>likely account for another 0.9%.
> >>
> >>psql backslash commands are not machine API contracts and should be adapted
> >>for optimal human consumption; thus neutering the argument for maintaining
> >>backward compatibility.
> >One other issue --- we are adding conditional display of "Replica
> >Identity" to psql \d+ in 9.4, so users processing \d+ output are already
> >going to have to make adjustments for 9.4.  That is another reason I am
> >asking about this now.
> >
> 
> 
> I think Tom's suggestion probably has the most support, although
> it's not unanimous.

Are you saying most people like "Has OIDs: yes", or the idea of just
displaying _a_ line if there are OIDs?  Based on default_with_oids,
perhaps we should display "With OIDs".

I agree it is no unanimous.  I am curious how large the majority has to
be to change a psql display value.

--  Bruce Momjian  <bruce@momjian.us>        http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
http://enterprisedb.com
 + Everyone has their own god. +



pgsql-hackers by date:

Previous
From: Tom Lane
Date:
Subject: Re: [RFC] What should we do for reliable WAL archiving?
Next
From: Andrew Dunstan
Date:
Subject: Re: psql \d+ and oid display