Re: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review]) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])
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Msg-id 20130805161825.GA11286@momjian.us
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In response to Re: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])  (Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>)
Responses Re: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET command to change postgresql.conf parameters (RE: Proposal for Allow postgresql.conf values to be changed via SQL [review])  (Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>)
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On Thu, Aug  1, 2013 at 03:40:22PM +0100, Greg Stark wrote:
> Why isn't it enough to just dump out all variables with a source of alter
> system to a text file? You can either have a single global lock around that
> operation or write it to a new file and move it into place.
> 
> --
> greg
> 
> On 1 Aug 2013 15:19, "Andres Freund" <andres@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> 
>     On 2013-08-01 15:17:04 +0100, Greg Stark wrote:
>     > We don't need per guc locking. This is the whole objection Tom had about
>     > this patch being more complex than it has to be.
> 
>     IIRC he objected to using locking *at all* because a simple
>     one-file-per-setting approach should be used.

I am unclear why we don't need a lock around _each_ GUC, i.e. if two
sessions try to modify the same GUC at the same time.  And if we need a
lock, seems we can have just one and write all the settings to one file
--- it is not like we have trouble doing locking, though this is
cluster-wide locking.

How would users handle renamed GUC variables, as we have done in the
past?  Would pg_dumpall dump the settings out?  Would unrecognized
settings throw an error, causing pg_upgrade to fail?

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