Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> >> If your point here is that you don't want to spend time hacking on
> >> this because it's a fairly marginal feature and therefore not terribly
> >> high on your priority list, I can understand that. ?But if you're
> >> actually defending the current implementation, I'm going to have to
> >> respectfully disagree. ?It's broken, and it sucks, and this is not the
> >> first complaint we've had about it.
> >
> > The spec's definition of USING is broken and sucky, and we're
> > implementing it as best we can. ?I don't feel a need to invent
> > strange nonstandard behavior to work around the fact that USING
> > is fragile *by definition*. ?Complain to the standards committee
> > about that.
>
> It's not the standard's committee's fault that our dump won't restore.
> They may not have made life any easier for us, but if we're going to
> have the feature, then pg_dump ought to work. Otherwise, we're
> telling people "you can use this feature, but don't expect to be able
> to restore from backup". Not a way to win friends.
>
> > (Question: would you also have us try to work around the fact that
> > USING stops working if you rename one of the join columns?)
>
> Yeah. In fact, I proposed a patch to do just that in response to bug
> #5234, which you shot down. I still don't agree with that. We can
> either disallow the original DDL (adding or renaming a column in a way
> that causes the dumped representation to become invalid) or we can
> change what we dump so that it can be reloaded. Letting the user
> change the view definition and then producing an unrestorable dump
> seems truly awful to me, regardless of how little help we're getting
> from the SQL standards committee.
Reminder, pg_upgrade is also going to be unusuable if pg_dump generates
an error, even on a view.
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