Re: Using Postgres as an alias - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Pavel Stehule wrote:
> Hello Bruce
>
> I really unlike this game about change the name. If you get 100%
> support then situation is simple, but you hasn't it. I use PostgreSQL,
> Postgres and I doesn't any strong benefit with change of name.
> Devrim's argument about renaming all packages is really strong for me.
>
> I agree so official documentation have to use only name PostgreSQL. Is
> technical documentation not articles. And again I don't see any
> benefit. Currently Postgres is well know synonym for PostgreSQL and
> there isn't necessary push it into documentation. Please stop it.

We don't require 100% agreement on anything becuase it is hard to get
anything done.  We are looking for general agreement, and I think we are
trying to get there.

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>
> Regards
>
> Pavel Stehule
>
> 2007/9/26, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>:
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
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> > > Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > >> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >>> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > >>>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > >>>>> But without such changes the alias is only in the FAQ and will not be
> > > >>>>> widely used.
> > > >>>> I'm not sure if this has been thought through to the end.  If we make
> > > >>>> the point that PostgreSQL can also be called Postgres, this does not
> > > >>>> prevent anyone from calling it Postgre or any other forms that we might
> > > >>>> not like.  It might in fact make people think that it has various names
> > > >>>> and you can call it whatever you want.
> > > >>> Well, they are already calling it "Postgre" without our help, so I see
> > > >>> us giving them a clear alternative to PostgreSQL as helping avoid
> > > >>> "Postgre".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But in the end, they can continue calling us whatever they want and we
> > > >>> can't stop them.
> > > >> Then why are we bothering trying?
> > > >
> > > > Because though we can't _stop_ them, we can certainly influence them.
> > > > Why are you asking such simplistic questions?
> > >
> > > It seemed odd to me. You said, "we can't stop them". So it seems like an
> > > awful lot of wasted effort to try.
> >
> > Not sure why you see this as fatalist.  I can't _make_ many people do
> > much, but I can encourage them to do things, as you have seen.  That's
> > what we are doing here to encourage the use of "Postgres".
> >
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