Re: Three weeks left until feature freeze - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Jonah H. Harris wrote:

> I don't believe anyone has offered any suggestions or good alternatives 
> other than what we have now; keeping high-profile projects like PL/Java 
> on gborg/pgfoundry (which sucks IMHO).

Why?

What is being discussed here is *purely* a packaging issue ... how many 
actually download the postgresql tar ball directly, vs downloading RPMs, 
or installing from FreeBSD ports, or Solaris packages, or ... ?

Using pl/Java as an example ... just went to Google, searched for 
pl<space>java, and gborg comes up as the first response, so finding it 
isn't difficult ...

But, I can't find anything there to download ... just a pointer to a Wiki, 
which, I'm sorry, would definitely not be my first thought to go look at 
for a downloads ...

So, let's try ftp ...

ftp.postgresql.org:/pub/projects/gborg/pljava/stable:

Nothing there newer then November 2005:

ftp> ls -lt
227 Entering Passive Mode (66,98,251,159,248,251)
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 23026
-rw-r--r--  1 80  1009  206134 Nov 20  2005 pljava-src-1.2.0.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 80  1009  522895 Nov 20  2005 pljava-i686-pc-mingw32-pg8.1-1.2.0.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 80  1009  522955 Nov 20  2005 pljava-i686-pc-mingw32-pg8.0-1.2.0.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 80  1009  421717 Nov 20  2005 pljava-i686-pc-linux-gnu-pg8.1-1.2.0.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 80  1009  421999 Nov 20  2005 pljava-i686-pc-linux-gnu-pg8.0-1.2.0.tar.gz

so, if there is a newer version (I actually eventually went to the wiki, 
so know there is a 1.3.0), its not taking advantage of the PostgreSQL file 
distribution network that has been developed over the years ...

'k, go back and check Google, the top 5 listings, in order:

gborg x 2
pl-j 
pgfoundry
pljava wiki

so, if using google, the first place most ppl will go to look for 
informatino is the one place you say "sucks" ... gborg ... second choice 
would be the other place you say "sucks" ... pgfoundry ... eventually, 
giving up on those two, they'd maybe try the wiki, *but*, only because the 
project maintainer hasn't been uploading files to gborg/pgfoundry, not 
because gborg/pgfoundry isn't found in search engines ...

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