Re: Reducing the overhead of NUMERIC data - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Martijn van Oosterhout
Subject Re: Reducing the overhead of NUMERIC data
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Msg-id 20051104191127.GE13966@svana.org
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In response to Re: Reducing the overhead of NUMERIC data  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Reducing the overhead of NUMERIC data  (Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>)
Re: Reducing the overhead of NUMERIC data  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 01:54:04PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> mark@mark.mielke.cc writes:
> > I read "the backend is by and large an ASCII, null-terminated-string
> > engine" with "we use UTF-8 [for varlena strings?]" as, a lot of the
> > code assumes varlena strings are '\0' terminated, and an assumption
> > on my part, that the varlena strings are not stored in the backend
> > with a '\0' terminator, therefore, they require being copied out,
> > terminated with a '\0', before they can be used?
>
> There are places where we have to do that, the worst from a performance
> viewpoint being in string comparison --- we have to null-terminate both
> values before we can pass them to strcoll().
>
> One of the large bits that would have to be done before we could even
> contemplate using UCS2/UCS4 is getting rid of our dependence on strcoll,
> since its API is null-terminated-string.

Yeah, and while one way of removing that dependance is to use ICU, that
library wants everything in UTF-16. So we replace "copying to add NULL
to string" with "converting UTF-8 to UTF-16 on each call. Ugh! The
argument for UTF-16 is that if you're using a language that doesn't use
ASCII at all, UTF-8 gets inefficient pretty quickly.

Locale sensetive, efficient storage, fast comparisons, pick any two!

My guess is that in the long run there would be two basic string
datatypes, one UTF-8, null terminated string used in the backend code
as a standard C string, default collation strcmp. The other UTF-16 for
user data that wants to be able to collate in a locale dependant way.

Have a nice day,
--
Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog@svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a
> tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone
> else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.

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