Re: Time to work on Press Release 8.0 - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Jan Wieck wrote:
> >>
> >>> Every time PostgreSQL is discussed, be that slashdot or LWN or other
> >>> forums or even interviews with any of out competitors, the statement is
> >>> "doesn't have replication". If we avoid the topic in our 8.0 press
> >>> release and leave out the word replication, instead of pointing to the
> >>> reasons why it is *better not to have replication builtin*, we will
> >>> lose. People will read the press release, don't see the word
> >>> replication, so "No Replication - checkmark".
> >>
> >> Except that "Have Replication" to those claiming 'No Replicatin' means
> >> "Integrated with the Server", we still don't *have* Replication in their
> >> minds, no matter how many external projects that do it we mention ;(
> >
> > Both Joshua Drake and Marc sell commercial replication solutions.  Do
> > you think it is fair of the community to mention BSD-licensed
> > replication solutions in our press release while not mentioning
> > commercial ones?
>
> Neither Joshua or I are advocating mentioning either of our replication
> solutions ... that is not (or at least not for us) the discussion ... the
> discussion is whether or not it is appropriate to highlight a 3rd party
> add on (which is what Slony is) as part of *our* Release Announcement ...
>
> For those that are advocating in favor of this, to try and quell the 'we
> do not have replication' proponents, that isn't going to work since Slony
> is *still* an Add-On, and is not integrated.
>
> And, for those that are wondering about putting it into contrib, that
> doesn't make it any less of an Add-On in those ppls minds ...
>
> ... so we aren't buying anything, and, again, we are reducing the focus on
> what we *do* include (NT, PITR, native Win32, etc) ...
>
> The PR should be focusing on *our* features ... that which comes with
> *our* distribution ... not on something someone else wrote that works with
> PostgreSQL ...
>
> But, as one person has mentioned in this thread, as an attempt at a voice
> of sanity ... maybe we should just let this drop, and see how the PR
> fleshes out ... maybe we *don't* have enough in this release to do a
> strong Press Release, and need to mentioned add-on stuff to make it big
> enough to be picked up by the press *shrug*

We are already planning to mention server-side java in the release
announcement.  That isn't integrated either, but I think we should
mention it also.

In fact I want to write a documentation section talking about add-ons,
why the exist (are not integrated), and how to get them.

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