Re: How about an am_superuser GUC parameter (non-settable)? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: How about an am_superuser GUC parameter (non-settable)?
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Msg-id 200304290306.h3T36M121754@candle.pha.pa.us
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In response to Re: How about an am_superuser GUC parameter (non-settable)?  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> > I'm a little uneasy with puttting too much extra burden on the GUC
> > mechanism, which is after all a system to configure the server, not to
> > retrieve or communicate data.  Even the "server_version" thing recently
> > added doesn't make me happy.  If an application wants to know that, it
> > should send a query.
> 
> Well, I think there is a very demonstrable reason to send the server
> version as part of the startup protocol: "send a query" isn't a
> trustworthy way for an application to find that out, given the rate at
> which we are changing the server.  For example, the fully correct way
> to do that in 7.3 is "select pg_catalog.version()", but this syntax
> doesn't work at all in pre-7.3 servers.  And that doesn't even consider
> the autocommit issue...
> 
> If GUC didn't exist then a green-field design for sending the server
> version during startup would doubtless have looked different.  But we
> have the mechanism, it performs excellently, and extending it in this
> particular direction seems like a very reasonable design choice to me.
> You know not how well you wrought ;-)

As an example, how many databases have their info spread all over the
place --- I would love if they had it all centralized, as we do with
GUC.

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