Re: Visibility Groups - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Visibility Groups
Date
Msg-id 1218119734.4549.520.camel@ebony.2ndQuadrant
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In response to Re: Visibility Groups  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>)
List pgsql-hackers
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 10:20 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> > 
> > Currently, we calculate a single OldestXmin across all snapshots on the
> > assumption that any transaction might access any table.
> > 
> > I propose creating "Visibility Groups" that *explicitly* limit the
> > ability of a transaction to access data outside its visibility group(s).
> > By default, visibility_groups would be NULL, implying potential access
> > to all tables.
> 
> I think this is a cumbersome thing to use.  We can do better -- right
> now we keep closer track of open snapshots, which means that if there is
> a long running transaction that refreshes its snapshots periodically,
> vacuum doesn't need to keep all the dead rows that it can no longer see.  
> 
> We can improve vacuum to be able to remove a lot more dead rows than we
> do currently.  This is invisible to the user, which IMHO is a better
> user interface than what you are proposing.

Agreed, but this is a step even beyond that.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support



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