Re: Fixing hash index build time - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Hannu Krosing
Subject Re: Fixing hash index build time
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Msg-id 1174554204.3703.3.camel@localhost.localdomain
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In response to Re: Fixing hash index build time  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
Responses Re: Fixing hash index build time  (Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>)
Re: Fixing hash index build time  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Ühel kenal päeval, K, 2007-03-21 kell 17:25, kirjutas Bruce Momjian:
> Added to TODO:
> 
>         o During index creation, pre-sort the tuples to improve build speed
> 
>          http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-03/msg01199.php

Maybe the TODO text should mention, that it is about HASH indexes ?

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > I wrote:
> > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I suddenly realized
> > > while responding to the above message that the reason for the awful
> > > performance is pretty obvious: hashbuild starts with a minimum-size
> > > index (two buckets) and repeatedly splits buckets as insertions are
> > > done, exactly the same as ordinary dynamic growth of the index would do.
> > > This means that for an N-row table, approximately N/entries-per-bucket
> > > splits need to occur during index build, which results in roughly O(N^2)
> > > performance because we have to reprocess already-inserted entries over
> > > and over.
> > 
> > Well, unfortunately this theory seems to be all wet.  Given that the
> > bucket loading is reasonably even, the time to split a bucket is about
> > constant and so there's no O(N^2) effect.  (The multiplier hidden inside
> > O(N) is pretty awful, but it doesn't change with N.)
> > 
> > The real reason why performance falls off a cliff for building large
> > hash indexes seems to be much harder to fix: basically, once the size
> > of your index exceeds working memory, it's nap time.  Given that the
> > incoming data has randomly distributed hash values, each bucket is about
> > as likely to be touched next as any other; there is no locality of
> > access and so the "working set" is the same size as the index.  Once it
> > doesn't fit in RAM anymore you're into swap hell.
> > 
> > The only way I can see to fix that is to try to impose some locality of
> > access during the index build.  This is not impossible: for example,
> > given a choice for the number of buckets, we could sort all the index
> > tuples by hashed bucket number and then start inserting.  btree does a
> > preliminary sort, and its index build times are way more reasonable
> > than hash's currently are, so the cost of the sort isn't outrageous.
> > (I note this is mainly because we know how to do sorting with locality
> > of access...)  Before we start inserting we will know exactly how many
> > tuples there are, so we can pre-create the right number of buckets and
> > be sure that no on-the-fly splits will be needed for the rest of the
> > build.  If we guessed wrong about the number of buckets there will be
> > some places in the process where we concurrently insert into several
> > buckets not just one, or perhaps come back to a bucket that we touched
> > earlier, but that's still maintaining plenty of locality of access.
> > 
> > This is looking like more work than I want to do in the near future,
> > but I thought I'd put it into the archives for someone to tackle.
> > Bruce, would you add a TODO item linking to this:
> > 
> >     * Improve hash index build time by sorting
> > 
> >             regards, tom lane
> > 
> > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to
> >        choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not
> >        match
> 
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