Re: postgresql with SuSE 8.0 - Mailing list pgsql-novice

Well, I am no fan of MS SQL, but as I mentioned, it was pretty easy to
install a few years ago, about 4 I think. Maybe Red Hat does makes it
easier, but SuSE sure did not. Normaly Suse does pretty good with these
type programs. Also, my database needs are pretty simple, parts
database, things like that.

A type of flow-chart where the myriad of config files belong and a basid
description would really help, but I have never seen that. MySQL was
easier to install and configure, but it does not have stored views as
Postgresql.

Art

On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 12:17, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Art,
>
> > I don't understand why it has to be so difficult to setup a postgresql
> > database.
>
> Frankly, most of us didn't find it difficult, even the first time.   For that
> matter, RH 8.0's RPMs take care of a lot of this initial configuration stuff
> for you; I'm not sure why SuSE's don't.
>
>  I thought Oracle was bad, but postgresql is worse. (Oracle is
> > also pretty bad in install and setup in Windows in addition to being
> > more bloatware than SQLServer.) A few years ago, I installed setup a MS
> > SQLServer7 and transfered data from Access into it in an hour. I am no
> > database expert, but have worked with various databases.
>
> Tell me that again, after you set up MS SQL *this* year.   I've set up
> multiple MSSQL servers and PostgreSQL servers; Postgres is in my opinion much
> easier, particularly if your MSSQL requires any special authentication, which
> can take *hours* to troubleshoot on Win2k/Nt.   Let alone the number of
> on-install options for MSSQL (like sort order) that require you to *re-format
> the partition* and start over if you pick the wrong option.   Or for fun, why
> don't you try changing the host name of an MSSQL server?  I double-dog dare
> ya.
>
> > The
> > documentation leaves a lot to be desired. There needs to be a basic
> > setup and install procedure that non-database experts can understand and
> > follow without researching everything.
>
> Tell you what, Art:   You pay my company the cost of one MS SQL Server
> Enterprise license ($9995, last I checked).   I will hire a good technical
> writer and create comprehensive documentation on every single variation of
> installing PostgreSQL and troubleshooting all common problems reported on the
> lists, and post it on www.PostgreSQL.org.  Deal?