Re: slow plan on join when adding where clause - Mailing list pgsql-novice

From L. Loewe
Subject Re: slow plan on join when adding where clause
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In response to slow plan on join when adding where clause  ("L. Loewe" <lloewe@hotmail.com>)
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Nope. Still slow with sensor_id = 1.
The problem appears to be unrelated to the indexes but the the planners
assumption that
sensor_id=1 will return about 500K rows, which is correct and
start<ti<stop will return 5000K rows, which is way off of the actual 800.

My current solution is to create a (temporary) table with all sensors and
use it for sensor based queries - it works but requires some maintenance
which I wanted to avoid.

regards

On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:40:14 -0600, Mladen Gogala <mgogala@vmsinfo.com>
wrote:

> How about creating index on both columns and drop the separate index?
> The composite index on ti and sensor_id could still be used for the
> original query but would probably give you a killer performance when the
> columns are used together.
>
> L. Loewe wrote:
>> Thanks.
>>
>> That did change the plan a bit but it's still not doing it the way
>> it does it when searching all sensors - and it's still a lot slower.
>>
>>
>>  Nested Loop  (cost=2.36..1482129.06 rows=2629241 width=68)
>>              (actual time=30983.301..31827.299 rows=772 loops=1)
>>    Join Filter: ((main.ti > events.start) AND (main.ti < events.stop))
>>    ->  Seq Scan on main  (cost=0.00..890547.50 rows=190832 width=40)
>>              (actual time=54.095..18136.153 rows=492150 loops=1)
>>          Filter: ((sensor_id + 0) = 1)
>>    ->  Materialize  (cost=2.36..3.60 rows=124 width=28)
>>              (actual time=0.000..0.009 rows=124 loops=492150)
>>          ->  Seq Scan on events  (cost=0.00..2.24 rows=124 width=28)
>>              (actual time=0.010..0.021 rows=124 loops=1)
>>  Total runtime: 31827.435 ms
>>
>> I'm not sure the index is the problem - seems more like the way it
>> assembles the data.
>> If I read this right the planner takes the rows matching sensor_id=1
>> first and then joins the result with the time slices of events.
>>
>> This'd be probably a good idea if events had a lot of rows or the time
>> slices were large.
>> But with the data at hand it is a lot faster to take the rows
>> of events first and then match each one to main.ti (which is what
>> the planner does without the where clause).
>>
>> It's understandable that the planner cannot properly figure out
>> how many rows these start-stop slices will select, however since
>> it appears to make an assumption I was looking for a way to
>> tell it which value to assume...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:06:46 -0600, Mladen Gogala <mgogala@vmsinfo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There is an old trick which can help you here. Try doing this:
>>> SELECT  * FROM  events, main WHERE  main.ti > events.start and
>>>                                     main.ti < events.stop and
>>> sensor_id+0=1;
>>>
>>> That will stop planner from merging two indexes and using bitmap.
>>>
>>> L. Loewe wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a fairly large table ("main" ~50M rows) containing a timestamp
>>>> (indexed),
>>>>  a sensor_id (indexed) and some sensor data ranging over a few years.
>>>>
>>>> The second table ("events" <500 rows) contains a set of interesting
>>>> events with
>>>> an events.id and two timestamps: events.start and events.stop plus
>>>> some
>>>> additional data.
>>>>
>>>> Now I want to join these tables to get the sensor data for those
>>>> events.
>>>>
>>>> The interval between start and stop is quite short for each event
>>>> (usually a
>>>> couple of minutes) so that there aren't too many rows from table
>>>> "main"
>>>> matching this criteria (~1K) for each event:
>>>>
>>>> SELECT * FROM events, main WHERE main.ti > events.start and main.ti <
>>>> events.stop;
>>>>
>>>> EXPLAIN ANALYZE gives
>>>>
>>>> Nested Loop  (cost=0.00..27621542.27 rows=524505120 width=68)
>>>>                  (actual time=0.038..42.314 rows=69209 loops=1)
>>>>    ->  Seq Scan on events (cost=0.00..2.24 rows=124 width=28)
>>>>                 (actual time=0.006..0.025 rows=124 loops=1)
>>>>    ->  Index Scan using idx_main_ti on main  (cost=0.00..159306.16
>>>> rows=4229880 width=40)
>>>>                 (actual time=0.016..0.178 rows=558 loops=124)
>>>>          Index Cond: ((main.ti > events.start) AND (main.ti <
>>>> events.stop))
>>>> Total runtime: 47.682 ms
>>>>
>>>> So far so good, however if I add a sensor_id constraint the planner
>>>> chooses a
>>>> different approach:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SELECT  * FROM  events, main WHERE  main.ti > events.start and
>>>>                                     main.ti < events.stop and
>>>> sensor_id=1;
>>>>
>>>> Nested Loop  (cost=7309.32..1422246.30 rows=4795865 width=68)
>>>>                 (actual time=23427.599..23886.276 rows=772 loops=1)
>>>>    Join Filter: ((main.ti > events.start) AND (main.ti < events.stop))
>>>>    ->  Bitmap Heap Scan on main (cost=7306.96..343174.23 rows=348087
>>>> width=40)
>>>>                 (actual time=3771.719..9508.728 rows=490984 loops=1)
>>>>          Recheck Cond: (sensor_id= 1)
>>>>          ->  Bitmap Index Scan on idx_main_sens (cost=0.00..7219.94
>>>> rows=348087 width=0)
>>>>                 (actual time=3769.075..3769.075 rows=491102 loops=1)
>>>>                Index Cond: (sensor_id= 1)
>>>>    ->  Materialize  (cost=2.36..3.60 rows=124 width=28)
>>>>                 (actual time=0.000..0.010 rows=124 loops=490984)
>>>>          ->  Seq Scan on events (cost=0.00..2.24 rows=124 width=28)
>>>>                (actual time=0.005..0.021 rows=124 loops=1)
>>>> Total runtime: 23886.494 ms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently the planner assumes that sensor_id=1 will return fewer
>>>> rows than
>>>> the time constraint while the opposite is true:
>>>> sensor_id=1 -> ~ 500K , time window -> ~ 1K.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to hint the planner to use plan 1 even with the
>>>> sensor_id=1
>>>> clause or am I doing something fundamentally wrong here?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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