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From Christopher Browne
Subject Re: First set of OSDL Shared Mem scalability results, some wierdness ...
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In response to First set of OSDL Shared Mem scalability results, some wierdness ...  (Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
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Quoth simon@2ndquadrant.com ("Simon Riggs"):
> I say this: ARC in 8.0 PostgreSQL allows us to sensibly allocate as
> large a shared_buffers cache as is required by the database
> workload, and this should not be constrained to a small percentage
> of server RAM.

I don't think that this particularly follows from "what ARC does."

"What ARC does" is to prevent certain conspicuous patterns of
sequential accesses from essentially trashing the contents of the
cache.

If a particular benchmark does not include conspicuous vacuums or
sequential scans on large tables, then there is little reason to
expect ARC to have a noticeable impact on performance.

It _could_ be that this implies that ARC allows you to get some use
out of a larger shared cache, as it won't get blown away by vacuums
and Seq Scans.  But it is _not_ obvious that this is a necessary
truth.

_Other_ truths we know about are:

 a) If you increase the shared cache, that means more data that is
    represented in both the shared cache and the OS buffer cache,
    which seems rather a waste;

 b) The larger the shared cache, the more pages there are for the
    backend to rummage through before it looks to the filesystem,
    and therefore the more expensive cache misses get.  Cache hits
    get more expensive, too.  Searching through memory is not
    costless.
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