On 03/12/2025 18:52, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 3 Dec 2025, at 10:57, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> wrote:
>> Do we need the GUC? It feels a little confusing that a GUC affects how the settings in the pg_hosts.conf are
interepreted.It'd be nice if you could open pg_hosts.conf in an editor, and see at one glance everything that affects
this.
>
> I added the GUC for two reasons; as a way to opt-out of this feature if it's
> something that the admin doesn't want; and as a way to set the SNI mode. There
> are currently the two modes of STRICT and DEFAULT which affects how incoming
> connections are handled. The first motivation might be unfounded, and the
> second one could be encoded in a pg_hosts configuration though implicitly
> rather than explicitly.
>
> Having all the details in pg_hosts.conf is appealing, no disagreement there,
> but it does pose some challenges in the interaction with the postgresql.conf
> GUCS (more later).
>
>> I propose that there is no GUC. In 'pg_hosts.conf', you can specify a wildcard '*' host that matches anything. You
canalso specify a "no sni" line which matches connections with no SNI specified. (Or something along those lines, I
didn'tthink too hard about all the interactions).
>
> So basically reserving a hostname,"no_sni" or something, which indicates that
> it's for non sslsni connections? That should work, with the parsing rule that
> there can only be one in the file.
Yeah, something like that. And to implement the "strict" mode, you could
have a "no_sni" line with no cert/key specified.
>> For backwards-compatibility, if you specify a certificate and key in postgresql.conf, they are treated the same as
ifyou had a "*" line in pg_hosts.conf.
>
> That's a bit trickier though, since the cert/key have a default boot_val so
> they will always be set to something unless the user enables ssl=on and at the
> same time uncomments ssl_cert_file/ssl_key_file and set them to '' before
> proceeding to add configuration in pg_hosts.conf. This is pretty unintuitive I
> think. unintuitive. This backwards comatibility is one of the reasons I kept
> the postgresl.conf values for the default context config.
>
> I really want to make it possible for anyone who don't want SNI to keep using
> postgresql.conf and get the exact behavior they've always had. Do you agree
> with that design goal?
Yeah, that's fair.
- Heikki
