Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From rsmogura
Subject Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache
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In response to Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache  ("Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>)
Responses Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache
Re: 2nd Level Buffer Cache
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:02:18 -0500, Kevin Grittner wrote:
> Rados*aw Smogura<rsmogura@softperience.eu> wrote:
>
>> I have implemented initial concept of 2nd level cache. Idea is to
>> keep some segments of shared memory for special buffers (e.g.
>> indices) to prevent overwrite those by other operations. I added
>> those functionality to nbtree index scan.
>>
>> I tested this with doing index scan, seq read, drop system
>> buffers, do index scan and in few places I saw performance
>> improvements, but actually, I'm not sure if this was just "random"
>> or intended improvement.
>
> I've often wondered about this.  In a database I developed back in
> the '80s it was clearly a win to have a special cache for index
> entries and other special pages closer to the database than the
> general cache.  A couple things have changed since the '80s (I mean,
> besides my waistline and hair color), and PostgreSQL has many
> differences from that other database, so I haven't been sure it
> would help as much, but I have wondered.
>
> I can't really look at this for a couple weeks, but I'm definitely
> interested.  I suggest that you add this to the next CommitFest as a
> WIP patch, under the Performance category.
>
> https://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view/open
>
>> There is few places to optimize code as well, and patch need many
>> work, but may you see it and give opinions?
>
> For something like this it makes perfect sense to show "proof of
> concept" before trying to cover everything.
>
> -Kevin
Yes, there is some change, and I looked at this more carefully, as my performance results wasn't such as I expected. I
foundPG uses BufferAccessStrategy to do sequence scans, so my test query took only 32 buffers from pool and didn't
overwrittenindex pool too much. This BAS is really surprising. In any case when I end polishing I will send good patch,
withproof.
 
Actually idea of this patch was like this:Some operations requires many buffers, PG uses "clock sweep" to get next free
buffer,so it may overwrite index buffer. From point of view of good database design We should use indices, so purging
outindex from cache will affect performance.
 
As the side effect I saw that this 2nd level keeps pg_* indices in memory too, so I think to include 3rd level cache
forsome pg_* tables.
 
Regards,Radek


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