On 10/24/25 21:50, David Rowley wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 at 17:36, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
>> I am not following, from your previous post:
>>
>> "Beta versions are meant for test instances. It'd be
>> good if people encouraged their use more often rather than pushing
>> people to defer til GA"
>>
>> That seems to be the opposite of what you say above.
>
> I think you think that because you misunderstood what I said in [1].
> I'll rephrase it for you:
>
> Because people promote the .0 as not yet production-ready, it means
> that fewer people bother testing with beta and RC versions. Lack of
> beta testing is what causes .0 to contain more bugs than it otherwise
> might, so my suggestion is that we should be encouraging people to run
> beta and RC in their test environments to try to increase the
> stability of .0 versions.
Alright that I understand, though not necessarily agree with. I would
say lack of testing has more to do with time/money management.
Organizations don't want to spend either until: 1) They see the dust
settle on what is going to end up in the release. 2) Whether there is
anything interesting enough to invest both in moving to a new release.
Maybe there is a compelling argument that can be made to get those
organizations off the fence. I just don't what it is as you would have
to convince them to spend time and money rather then just wait and let
the community as a whole do the work.
>
> I struggle to imagine anyone with any respect for the PostgreSQL
> project disagreeing with that, so I suspect you and Johnson must have
> misunderstood.
No we didn't misunderstand, we where responding to what the OP was
proposing which was jumping a production instance from 11 --> 18. That
is a different case then promoting testing of in beta's and rc's.
> David
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