Re: postgresql latency & bgwriter not doing its job - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Fabien COELHO
Subject Re: postgresql latency & bgwriter not doing its job
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Msg-id alpine.DEB.2.10.1408261012210.4394@sto
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In response to Re: postgresql latency & bgwriter not doing its job  (Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>)
Responses Re: postgresql latency & bgwriter not doing its job
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Hello Andres,

>> checkpoint when the segments are full... the server is unresponsive about
>> 10% of the time (one in ten transaction is late by more than 200 ms).
>
> That's ext4 I guess?

Yes!

> Did you check whether xfs yields a, err, more predictable performance?

No. I cannot test that easily without reinstalling the box. I did some 
quick tests with ZFS/FreeBSD which seemed to freeze the same, but not in 
the very same conditions. Maybe I could try again.

> [...] Note that it would *not* be a good idea to make the bgwriter write 
> out everything, as much as possible - that'd turn sequential write io 
> into random write io.

Hmmm. I'm not sure it would be necessary the case, it depends on how 
bgwriter would choose the pages to write? If they are chosen randomly then 
indeed that could be bad. If there is a big sequential write, should not 
the backend do the write directly anyway? ISTM that currently checkpoint 
is mostly random writes anyway, at least with the OLTP write load of 
pgbench. I'm just trying to be able to start them ealier so that they can 
be completed quickly.

So although bgwriter is not the solution, ISTM that pg has no reason to 
wait for minutes before starting to write dirty pages, if it has nothing 
else to do. If the OS does some retention later and cannot spread the 
load, as Josh suggest, this could also be a problem, but currently the OS 
seems not to have much to write (but WAL) till the checkpoint.

-- 
Fabien.



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