Re: Different compression methods for FPI - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: Different compression methods for FPI
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Msg-id a5e263ea-82d3-186f-1abf-a661c5f673af@iki.fi
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In response to Re: Different compression methods for FPI  (Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>)
Responses Re: Different compression methods for FPI  (Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>)
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On 15/06/2021 06:42, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 11:39:24AM +0900, Michael Paquier wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 08:42:08PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
>>>>> It's USERSET following your own suggestion (which is a good suggestion):
>>>> +       {"wal_compression_method", PGC_SIGHUP, WAL_SETTINGS,
>>>> +           gettext_noop("Set the method used to compress full page images in the WAL."),
>>>> +           NULL
>>>> +       },
>>>> +       &wal_compression_method,
>>>> +       WAL_COMPRESSION_PGLZ, wal_compression_options,
>>>> +       NULL, NULL, NULL
>>>> Any reason to not make that user-settable?  If you merge that with
>>>> wal_compression, that's not an issue.
>>
>> Hmm, yeah.  This can be read as using PGC_USERSET.  With the second
>> part of my sentence, I think that I imply to use PGC_SUSET and be
>> consistent with wal_compression, but I don't recall my mood from one
>> month ago :)  Sorry for the confusion.
> 
> Hold on - we're all confused (and I'm to blame).  The patch is changing the
> existing wal_compression GUC, rather than adding wal_compression_method.
> It's still SUSET, but in earlier messages, I called it USERSET, twice.

See prior discussion on the security aspect: 
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/55269915.1000309%40iki.fi. Adding 
different compression algorithms doesn't change anything from a security 
point of view AFAICS.

>>> The goal of the patch is to give options, and the overhead of adding both zlib
>>> and lz4 is low.  zlib gives good compression at some CPUcost and may be
>>> preferable for (some) DWs, and lz4 is almost certainly better (than pglz) for
>>> OLTPs.
>>
>> Anything will be better than pglz.  I am rather confident in that.
>> What I am wondering is if we need to eat more bits than necessary for
>> the WAL record format, because we will end up supporting it until the
>> end of times.
> 
> Why ?  This is WAL, not table data.  WAL depends on the major version, so
> I think wal_compression could provide a different set of compression methods at
> every major release?
> 
> Actually, I was just thinking that default yes/no/on/off stuff maybe should be
> defined to mean "lz4" rather than meaning pglz for "backwards compatibility".

+1

- Heikki



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