On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Jeff Davis wrote:
>>
>> I could still use a little clarification. It seems sort of like there is
>> an extra step, like:
>>
>> (1) start archiving
>> (2) pg_start_backup()
>> (3) copy PGDATA directory with tar
>> (4) pg_stop_backup()
>> (5) ??
>>
>> And the text you have at
>> http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/backup-online.html
>>
>> says: "To make use of this backup, you will need to keep around all the
>> WAL segment files generated during and after the file system backup.".
>>
>> How long after? Wouldn't you be keeping the WAL segments afterward
>> anyway by archiving?
>>
>> I've tested and been able to recover using PITR before, but I'd like a
>> little clarification on the steps to make absolutely sure that the base
>> backup I have is viable.
>>
>> Can you sort of run through the failure case again, and how to prevent
>> it?
>
> The failure case in the original docs is that you do your
> pg_stop_backup(), and then delete all the WAL file before the *.backup
> file that was just created. However, you do not have a valid tar backup
> until you have archived all the WAL files used from the *.backup WAL
> file up to the WAL file that was active at pg_stop_backup(), which is
> mentioned in the *.backup file. If you went and deleted your old WAL
> files anyway, without waiting for those other WAL files to be archived,
> and your disk drive crashed, you wouldn't have a tar backup you could
> use, and you had deleted the old WAL files you would have needed to
> recover your previous tar backup.
>
> Is there something in the current wording that needs clarification?
I'd say it's very not cool :) It's not we all expected from PITR.
I recall now Simon mentioned about that and have it in his TODO.
Other thing I don't understand what's the problem to generate WAL file
by demand ? Probably, TODO should says about this.
>
>
Regards, Oleg
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