Re: Weird issue with planner choosing seq scan - Mailing list pgsql-performance

Sean Leach wrote
> On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Stephen Denne wrote:
> >
> >> So should I do a vacuum full and then hope this doesn't
> >> happen again?
> >> Or should I run a VACUUM FULL after each aggregation run?
> >
> > If your usage pattern results in generating all of that
> unused space
> > in one transaction, and no further inserts or updates to
> that table
> > till next time you run the same process, then my guess is that you
> > probably should run a vacuum full on that table after each
> > aggregation run. In that case you wouldn't have to increase
> > max_fsm_pages solely to keep track of large amount of unused space
> > in that table, since you're cleaning it up as soon as you're
> > generating it.
> >
> > You earlier had 5.5 million row versions, 2 million of them
> dead but
> > not yet removable, and you said (even earlier) that the table had
> > 3.3 million rows in it.
> > You now say you've got 6.2 million row versions (with the same 2M
> > dead). So it looks like you're creating new row versions at
> quite a
> > pace, in which case increasing max_fsm_pages, and not
> worrying about
> > doing a vacuum full _every_ time is probably a good idea.
>
> So 281727 should be the minimum I bump it to correct?

Please know that I'm very new at advising PostgreSQL users how they should tune their system...

My understanding of your vacuum verbose output was that it was pointing out that max_fsm_pages was currently smaller
than281727, so therefore there was no way it could contain mappings to all the reusable space. However I don't think it
ishinting at, nor recommending a value that you should be using. 

If you do nothing, then this number of pages with reusable space will probably continue to grow, therefore, it probably
hasbeen growing. 

So, for example, if your max_fsm_pages is currently only 20000, then perhaps 20000 of the 281727 pages with reusable
spaceare in the free space map. The remaining 260000 pages _may_ have been generated through 20 different processes
eachof which created 13000 more pages with reusable space than the map could reference. If that was the case, then a
max_fsm_pagesof 33000 might be large enough. 

Do you see what I'm getting at?
I think that you should do a vacuum full of that table once, then monitor the number of pages in it with reusable space
fora while (over a few iterations of your regular processes). That should give you information about how much larger
yourmax_fsm_pages should be than it currently is. 

Regards,
Stephen Denne.

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