Re: Reduce timing overhead of EXPLAIN ANALYZE using rdtsc? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Lukas Fittl
Subject Re: Reduce timing overhead of EXPLAIN ANALYZE using rdtsc?
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In response to Re: Reduce timing overhead of EXPLAIN ANALYZE using rdtsc?  (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>)
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Hi,

Some minor follow up things worth noting:

(1) I discussed with Andres off-list today if there would be a problem
with TSC instructions being disabled for user mode, since there is
technically a way to restrict them to kernel mode only. In my testing
this won't be a practical problem on Linux, since vDSO already
directly calls RDTSCP, and so if you disallow TSC through
"prctl(PR_SET_TSC, PR_TSC_SIGSEGV)" pg_test_timing does crash - but it
crashes in the clock_gettime call, i.e. would do so even without any
direct TSC use in the picture. Presumably you could change the Linux
clocksource to avoid that. I also did some testing with containers
that use seccomp profiles (e.g. Docker), and there are no issues that
I can found beyond what would have already been a problem before.

If this was a practical problem, we could consider moving the
"pg_initialize_timing_tsc" call in pg_set_timing_clock_source to be
inside the switch cases (like Andres suggested upthread, but did not
change in the commit to be clear), that way a user could start
Postgres with timing_clock_source=system and not have any RDTSC(P)
instructions run at all.

(2) The pg_test_timing documentation has an existing link to this wiki
page: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pg_test_timing -- it seems that
page does talk about certain things that are not covered in the main
documentation, but I'm not really sure why that can't be in the main
docs. Do we want to keep maintaining that wiki page? (maybe we should
just remove that link, and move anything we consider critical to the
main docs?)

(3) I will move the patch to add ARM support to a new thread sometime
before the PG20 branch opens, so we can discuss that further.

With that, I've marked the commitfest entry as committed.

Thanks,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Fittl



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